Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-24 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Dirk, Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > You assume that change == breakage. Yet that assumption is baseless. > Which is what someone like Martin (R Core, and "at it" since the 80s pre-R > and 90s with the almost very beginning of R) and myself (around R since the > late 90s,

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-24 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 24 November 2016 at 22:09, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | For a frequently-updated Debian package repository, I assume you _manually_ bump | all the Debian R packages whenever the main R package is upgraded. Is that | correct? That is, when a Debian user upgrades the r-base package from, say, |

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-24 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Martin Maechler writes: > Well, Dirk has said to have given his last reply on this thread. > I (as a member of R-core) am glad about people like Dirk who > take some of our load and helpfully answer such > questions/reports on R-devel. I am glad too. Thank you. My

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-23 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 22 November 2016 at 22:21, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | Is this a more appropriate example? | | # ldd /usr/local/lib/R/library/tseries/libs/tseries.so | grep libR | libRblas.so => /usr/local/lib/R/lib/libRblas.so (0x80120c000) | libR.so => /usr/local/lib/R/lib/libR.so (0x801c0) No it is not.

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-23 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Martin Maechler writes: > To the issue: I also don't see what your point is. > R works with these so libraries as intended in all cases as > far as we know, and so I don't understand why anything needs to > be changed. > All these libraries "belong to R" and are

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-23 Thread Martin Maechler
> Joseph Mingrone > on Tue, 22 Nov 2016 22:21:49 -0400 writes: > Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: >> On 22 November 2016 at 00:02, Joseph Mingrone wrote: >> | These are also not fatal errors on FreeBSD, where everything, for now, also just >>

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-22 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > On 22 November 2016 at 00:02, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > | These are also not fatal errors on FreeBSD, where everything, for now, also > just > | works. ...until a library's interface changes. You seem to be arguing that > | sonmaes are pointless.

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-21 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Joseph, I will try to let this be my last message in this thread. Just to clarify: On 22 November 2016 at 00:02, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | These are also not fatal errors on FreeBSD, where everything, for now, also just | works. ...until a library's interface changes. You seem to be arguing

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-21 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Dirk, Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > On 21 November 2016 at 23:24, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > | > On 20 November 2016 at 21:49, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > | > | Hello Dirk, > | > | > | > | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > |

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-21 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 21 November 2016 at 23:24, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: | > On 20 November 2016 at 21:49, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | > | Hello Dirk, | > | | > | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: | > | | > | > On 20 November 2016 at 19:28, Joseph Mingrone

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-21 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Dirk, Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > On 20 November 2016 at 21:49, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > | Hello Dirk, > | > | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > | > | > On 20 November 2016 at 19:28, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > | > | Hello, > | > | > | > | R's shared libraries are

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-20 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 20 November 2016 at 21:49, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | Hello Dirk, | | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: | | > On 20 November 2016 at 19:28, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | > | Hello, | > | | > | R's shared libraries are linked without setting the soname. This is causing problems for some

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-20 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Hello Dirk, Dirk Eddelbuettel writes: > On 20 November 2016 at 19:28, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > | Hello, > | > | R's shared libraries are linked without setting the soname. This is > causing problems for some consumers. > | > | Error:

Re: [Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-20 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 20 November 2016 at 19:28, Joseph Mingrone wrote: | Hello, | | R's shared libraries are linked without setting the soname. This is causing problems for some consumers. | | Error: /usr/local/lib/R/library/tseries/libs/tseries.so is linked to |

[Rd] shared libraries: missing soname

2016-11-20 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Hello, R's shared libraries are linked without setting the soname. This is causing problems for some consumers. Error: /usr/local/lib/R/library/tseries/libs/tseries.so is linked to /usr/local/lib/R/lib/libRblas.so which does not have a SONAME. math/R needs to be