Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/20/10 01:08 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: What do you think about adding a "No RTFM" policy to the R mailing lists? Per, "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM": The Ubuntu Forums and LinuxQuestions.org, for instance, have instituted "no RTFM" policies to promote a welcoming atmosphere.[8][9]. R

Re: [Rd] Reproducible Research task view

2010-08-20 Thread Achim Zeileis
Yes, sure, good idea. Please have a look at vignette("ctv-howto", package = "ctv") and write a draft file ReproducibleResearch.ctv and e-mail it to me. Then I'll probably make some suggestions/comments before bringing it to CRAN. And when it's online, you can announce it on the list and

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Ravi Varadhan
I completely agree with you, John. In my view, there is no need for explicit RTFM or GLOG statements. Best, Ravi. -Original Message- From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of P J JAYNES Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:40 PM To: kw.s...@gmai

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread P J JAYNES
Hello, I have found the people associated with this list to be VERY helpful over the years. This is especially appreciated as, some of my answers have come from the same people who are busy improving R: a fascinating, potent set of software tools, excellently supported. In my humble opinion,

Re: [Rd] Reproducible Research task view

2010-08-20 Thread Roger D. Peng
For what it's worth, I think this is a great idea. -roger On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Max Kuhn wrote: > I would like to suggest a Reproducible Research CRAN task view. This > was discussed briefly in one of the useR! sessions this year. > > >From quick browse through CRAN, I counted 19 pack

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >  Hi, Gabor, et al.: > > >      Can anyone comment on the experience of the Ubuntu Forums and > LinuxQuestions.org, mentioned in the Wikipedia article I cited? > > >      Gabor makes an interesting point.  However, logic without data is a > v

[Rd] Reproducible Research task view

2010-08-20 Thread Max Kuhn
I would like to suggest a Reproducible Research CRAN task view. This was discussed briefly in one of the useR! sessions this year. >From quick browse through CRAN, I counted 19 packages that were associated with Sweave or other methods for reproducible research. I think that we've gotten to a poin

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Spencer Graves
Hi, Gabor, et al.: Can anyone comment on the experience of the Ubuntu Forums and LinuxQuestions.org, mentioned in the Wikipedia article I cited? Gabor makes an interesting point. However, logic without data is a very poor tool for decision making, because great sounding assump

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Spencer Graves > wrote: >>  What do you think about adding a "No RTFM" policy to the R mailing lists? >> Per, "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM": >> > I think this is a great suggestion. > > I notice the R ma

Re: [Rd] Rserve graphics output [was Re: C or Java code generation]

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Aug 20, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Matt Shotwell wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 12:58 -0400, Sharpie wrote: >> >> Donald Paul Winston wrote: >>> >>> Aren't you the guy who created Rserve? >>> >>> I'd like to develop a web app so clients can perform exploratory data >>> analysis with their browser wi

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Aug 20, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Vyacheslav Karamov > wrote: > x.ru>>> >>> >>> >>> Hi All! >>> >>> I'm new to R and I need to know is it possible for R to >>>generate >>> C/C++ source code, Java byte code

[Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >  What do you think about adding a "No RTFM" policy to the R mailing lists? > Per, "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM": > I think this is a great suggestion. I notice the R mailing list already has a gesture in this direction: "Rudeness and

Re: [Rd] Rserve graphics output [was Re: C or Java code generation]

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Sharpie wrote: > > > Donald Paul Winston wrote: >> >> Aren't you the guy who created Rserve? >> >> I'd like to develop a web app so clients can perform exploratory data >> analysis with their browser with no installed software, not even java (I >> don't like apple

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin Wright
Recently I was visiting with people about why commercial support is needed for some people using R. One person observed: With commercial support, you have a person that you can call with questions and yell at. With R mailing lists, you can ask questions and have people yell at YOU. The atmospher

Re: [Rd] Rserve graphics output [was Re: C or Java code generation]

2010-08-20 Thread Matt Shotwell
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 12:58 -0400, Sharpie wrote: > > Donald Paul Winston wrote: > > > > Aren't you the guy who created Rserve? > > > > I'd like to develop a web app so clients can perform exploratory data > > analysis with their browser with no installed software, not even java (I > > don't lik

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Vyacheslav Karamov wrote: x.ru>>> >> >> >>           Hi All! >> >>           I'm new to R and I need to know is it possible for R to >>        generate >>           C/C++ source code, Java byte code or native Win32 DLL like >>        MatLab? > > Is there any posibi

[Rd] Rserve graphics output [was Re: C or Java code generation]

2010-08-20 Thread Sharpie
Donald Paul Winston wrote: > > Aren't you the guy who created Rserve? > > I'd like to develop a web app so clients can perform exploratory data > analysis with their browser with no installed software, not even java (I > don't like applets). I thought R would be excellent for this but I need >

Re: [Rd] segfault in embedded r after call to repldlldo1

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Carl Martin Grewe wrote: > Dear R developers, > > i've got a question concerning an embedded R instance. I called the > initialization routines as seen in the "writing extensions" guide > (Rf_initialize, setup_Rmainloop and R_ReplDLLinit). I also changed the > fu

[Rd] segfault in embedded r after call to repldlldo1

2010-08-20 Thread Carl Martin Grewe
Dear R developers, i've got a question concerning an embedded R instance. I called the initialization routines as seen in the "writing extensions" guide (Rf_initialize, setup_Rmainloop and R_ReplDLLinit). I also changed the function callback pointer of readconsole and writeconsoleex to my loca

Re: [Rd] Does anyone use Sweave (RweaveLatex) option "expand=FALSE"?

2010-08-20 Thread Terry Therneau
Duncan, I use noweb for my R source code on the more complex projects (see the coxme package). I currently have my own "noweb.R" functions to do the work, but the overlap is so great with Sweave that I have hopes that they will one day merge. A note on <> recursion: for documentation this is

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 20 August 2010 at 08:25, Sharpie wrote: | My apologies Dirk, I phrased that badly. No worries. | What I ment is that RInside provides an interface by which the C++ program | can interact with R. Essentially, what the OP would gain from RInside is | that he would not have to use DCOM. Apa

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > On 20 August 2010 at 08:02, Sharpie wrote: > | So, unless I am gravely mistaken, RInside is just a nice cross-platform > | replacement for the RDCOM interface. It won't solve the problem of needing > > I wrote RInside, and I am unaware

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Sharpie
Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > On 20 August 2010 at 08:02, Sharpie wrote: > | So, unless I am gravely mistaken, RInside is just a nice cross-platform > | replacement for the RDCOM interface. It won't solve the problem of > needing > > I wrote RInside, and I am unaware of any attempts of mine

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 20 August 2010 at 08:02, Sharpie wrote: | So, unless I am gravely mistaken, RInside is just a nice cross-platform | replacement for the RDCOM interface. It won't solve the problem of needing I wrote RInside, and I am unaware of any attempts of mine to either copy, clone or otherwise imitate a

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Sharpie
Romain Francois wrote: > > Hi, > > It installs just like any other R package, there is no need for a > Makefile. > > $ R CMD RInside_0.2.3.tar.gz > Should probably be: R CMD INSTALL RInside_0.2.3.tar.gz But are we misleading the OP a little bit about what RInside can help him do? His o

Re: [Rd] Sweave <<*, showWarnings=TRUE>> ?

2010-08-20 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Martin Maechler wrote: Thank you Duncan, for expanding Sweave functionality, notably considering error handling. Related to that is the topic of handling warning messages. I thought someone (Fritz? One of the Sweave support package writers?) was working on the issue of including error and

[Rd] Sweave <<*, showWarnings=TRUE>> ?

2010-08-20 Thread Martin Maechler
Thank you Duncan, for expanding Sweave functionality, notably considering error handling. Related to that is the topic of handling warning messages. In a course on "using R" (for beginners), I would really like to show warnings that code chunks produce. Currently, the warnings are printed to the

Re: [Rd] Does anyone use Sweave (RweaveLatex) option "expand=FALSE"?

2010-08-20 Thread Claudia Beleites
Dear Kevin, thank you for the explanation. > I use it, frequently. The idea for it goes back to some of Knuth's > original literate programming ideas for developing weave and tangle when > he was writing TeX (the program). I want to be able to document the > pieces of some complex algorithm wit

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Romain Francois
Le 20/08/10 10:32, Vyacheslav Karamov a écrit : Dirk Eddelbuettel пишет: No, what you describe in the next few hundred lines would _build the examples if the package is already installed_ Also, building these examples (once you have the package is installed) does "Work For Me (TM)" in the sense

Re: [Rd] C or Java code generation

2010-08-20 Thread Vyacheslav Karamov
Dirk Eddelbuettel пишет: No, what you describe in the next few hundred lines would _build the examples if the package is already installed_ Also, building these examples (once you have the package is installed) does "Work For Me (TM)" in the sense that the compiles and linking steps succeed (W