Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

> > I read the CRAN policies twice, and there > > is no official guideline on how to compile the citation. The policies are about copyright and IP, not credited authorship. There's overlap but they are not the same thing. You can see whether someone is a copyright holder by referring to the

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

S Ellison posted: (quoting someone else, it appears) I read the CRAN policies twice, and there is no official guideline on how to compile the citation. And once again Dr Ellison is not attributing quotes: that is clearly covered by the posting guide. Including: Take care when you quote

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > I think it was easier to (ab)use that role than to get a "Maintainer" > role added to the standard ones. > Why bother with the relators list at all? THK http://www.keittlab.org/ [[alternative HTML

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On 07/10/2015 1:39 PM, Tim Keitt wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Spencer Graves > wrote: > >> Another example: The "Author" of the Ecdat package is Yves Croissant < >> yves.croiss...@let.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr>. I'm the Maintainer. At some >> point, I may add

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

. *This statement should be cited** as S L R Ellison, C L Dodgson, 'RE: [Rd] authorship and citation'. r-devel mailing list, 2015 with Acknowledgements: B Ripley, R-Core, S Urbanek for helpful remarks **following its own precepts :)

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Adrian Dușa wrote: > Hi Gabriel, > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Gabriel Becker > wrote: > >> [...] >> >> At the very least, this is seems to be a flagrant violation of the >> *spirit* of the CRAN policy, which

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Hadley, With all due respect, I'm not sure what exactly your deliniation between author and contributor is, but from what I can tell I don't agree with it. >From the blogpost regarding your new purrr package: "Purrr wouldn’t be possible without Lionel Henry . He

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: > Another example: The "Author" of the Ecdat package is Yves Croissant < > yves.croiss...@let.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr>. I'm the Maintainer. At some > point, I may add my name to the list of Authors but I certainly

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

An example from the sos package: Its DESCRIPTION file says Author: Spencer Graves, Sundar Dorai-Raj, and Romain Francois. However, the package includes a findFn function, whose help file includes an Author(s) section, which reads, "Spencer Graves, Sundar Dorai-Raj, Romain Francois. Duncan

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Dear Adrian, Have a look at the DESCRIPTION of the RODBC package. One of the authors was contributing from 1999 to 2002. I have the feeling that your situation is similar. Best regards, ir. Thierry Onkelinx Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature and Forest team

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Adrian, I am not on the CRAN or R-core teams, so the following is my own view, but... > library(QCA) > > Users are encouraged to cite this package as: > > Dusa, Adrian (2015). QCA: Qualitative Comparative Analysis. R Package > Version 1.2-0, > URL: http://cran.r-project.org/package=QCA > >

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Adrian, Responses inline On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Adrian Dușa wrote: > Hi Gabriel, > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Gabriel Becker > wrote: > >> [...] >> >> At the very least, this is seems to be a flagrant violation of the >> *spirit*

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Adrian Dușa wrote: > Dear Gabriel, > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Gabriel Becker > wrote: > >> [...] >> >>> >>> I apologize for pushing this topic to the limit, but I haven't got an >>> answer to this question

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Hi Gabriel, On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Gabriel Becker wrote: > [...] > > At the very least, this is seems to be a flagrant violation of the > *spirit* of the CRAN policy, which AFAIK is intended to enforce > acknowledgement of the contributions of all copyright

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Adrian Dușa wrote: > > [...] > If the spirit of the CRAN policies is to enforce citing each and every one of the authors, then I don't understand why the citation from package Rcmdr meets this spirit, while my suggestion doesn't. > > I

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Dear Gabriel, On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Gabriel Becker wrote: > [...] > >> >> I apologize for pushing this topic to the limit, but I haven't got an >> answer to this question yet... >> > > With respect, not receiving the answer you wanted isn't the same as not >

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Gabriel Becker wrote: > > [...] > >> >> The work of the other author is duly acknowledged in his position in the >> authors' list. >> As I previously wrote, citing Dusa and Other (2015) implies equal >> citation rights for unequal work, a

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On 06/10/2015 12:58, S Ellison wrote: (quoting without attribution to the author, who would appear to be Uwe Liggges). The former co-author contributed, so he is still author and probably copyright holder and has to be listed among the authors, otherwise it would be a CRAN policy violation

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On 6 October 2015 at 13:38, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: | Authorship is not just about code. An fair credit about is the only currency we have in Open Source projects. Dirk -- http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org __

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Oct 6, 2015, at 7:58 AM, S Ellison wrote: >> The former co-author contributed, so he is still author and probably >> copyright >> holder and has to be listed among the authors, otherwise it would be a CRAN >> policy violation ... > > It's a bit of a philosophical

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

> The former co-author contributed, so he is still author and probably copyright > holder and has to be listed among the authors, otherwise it would be a CRAN > policy violation ... It's a bit of a philosophical question right now, but at some point in a developing package's life - particularly

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On 06 Oct 2015, at 14:09, S Ellison wrote: >> The former co-author contributed, so he is still author and probably >> copyright >> holder and has to be listed among the authors, otherwise it would be a CRAN >> policy violation ... > > It's a bit of a philosophical

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote: > > [...] > > To clarify, legally, you can fork a standard GPL package and make any > changes you want, including changing authors fields etc. If you don't own > copyright for the entire work then you cannot change

[Rd] authorship and citation

Dear R developers, This is a rather peculiar question, but nevertheless I would still need an answer for. It is about an R package which I created (namely QCA), and from versions 1.0-0 to 1.1-4 I had a co-author. The co-author recently withdrawn from the package development, but still requires to

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

Simply advice: The former co-author contributed, so he is still author and probably copyright holder and has to be listed among the authors, otherwise it would be a CRAN policy violation since even if he does not develop further on, he developed parts of the so far existing package (if you

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

As a fourth option, I wonder if the first author could fork the package? Presumably, appropriately cited, a fork is permitted by the license under which it was released. Then the original package, by both authors, still exists (and a final version could point to the new one) and the new package,

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On Oct 5, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Uwe Ligges wrote: > > > On 05.10.2015 23:47, Andrew Robinson wrote: >> As a fourth option, I wonder if the first author could fork the package? >> >> Presumably, appropriately cited, a fork is permitted by the license under >>

Re: [Rd] authorship and citation

On 05.10.2015 23:47, Andrew Robinson wrote: As a fourth option, I wonder if the first author could fork the package? Presumably, appropriately cited, a fork is permitted by the license under which it was released. Then the original package, by both authors, still exists (and a final version