Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-29 Thread John Maindonald
] Enhanced version of plot.lm() NB also the mention of a possible addition to stats: vif() Dear John - I think users can cope with six plots offered by one function, with four of them given by default, and the two remaining plots alternative ways of presenting the information in the final default

RE: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-29 Thread John Fox
; 'David Firth'; 'Martin Maechler' Subject: Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm() NB also the mention of a possible addition to stats: vif() Dear John - I think users can cope with six plots offered by one function, with four of them given by default, and the two remaining plots

RE: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-28 Thread John Fox
] Enhanced version of plot.lm() On 28 Apr 2005, at 1:30 AM, Martin Maechler wrote: PD == Peter Dalgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 27 Apr 2005 16:54:02 +0200 writes: PD Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to commit the current proposal(s) to R-devel, **INCLUDING

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-28 Thread John Maindonald
Subject: Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm() On 28 Apr 2005, at 1:30 AM, Martin Maechler wrote: PD == Peter Dalgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 27 Apr 2005 16:54:02 +0200 writes: PD Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to commit the current proposal(s) to R-devel, **INCLUDING

RE: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-28 Thread John Fox
Dear John -Original Message- From: John Maindonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:47 PM To: John Fox Cc: 'Werner Stahel'; 'Peter Dalgaard'; r-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch; 'David Firth'; 'Martin Maechler' Subject: Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-27 Thread Martin Maechler
MM == Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:13:38 +0200 writes: JMd == John Maindonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:44:26 +1000 writes: JMd The web page http://wwwmaths.anu.edu.au/~johnm/r/plot-lm/ JMd now includes files: JMd plot.lm.RData:

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-27 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to commit the current proposal(s) to R-devel, **INCLUDING** changing the default from 'which = 1:4' to 'which = c(1:3,5) and ellicit feedback starting from there. One thing I think I would like is to use color for the

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-27 Thread Martin Maechler
PD == Peter Dalgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 27 Apr 2005 16:54:02 +0200 writes: PD Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to commit the current proposal(s) to R-devel, **INCLUDING** changing the default from 'which = 1:4' to 'which = c(1:3,5) and

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-27 Thread John Maindonald
On 28 Apr 2005, at 1:30 AM, Martin Maechler wrote: PD == Peter Dalgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 27 Apr 2005 16:54:02 +0200 writes: PD Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to commit the current proposal(s) to R-devel, **INCLUDING** changing the default from 'which = 1:4' to

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-26 Thread Martin Maechler
On 25 Apr 2005, at 8:00 PM, David Firth wrote: From: David Firth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24 April 2005 10:23:51 PM To: John Maindonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: r-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm() On 24 Apr 2005, at 05:37

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-26 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This would be non-compatible though for all those that have always used the current default 1:4. OTOH, MASS or Peter Dalgaard's book don't mention plot(lm fit ) or at least don't show it's result. Ummm, check page 183... -- O__ Peter

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-26 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Peter Dalgaard wrote: Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This would be non-compatible though for all those that have always used the current default 1:4. OTOH, MASS or Peter Dalgaard's book don't mention plot(lm fit ) or at least don't show it's result. Ummm, check

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-25 Thread John Maindonald
@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm() On 24 Apr 2005, at 05:37, John Maindonald wrote: I'd not like to lose the signs of the residuals. Also, as plots 1-3 focus on residuals, there is less of a mental leap in moving to residuals vs leverage; residuals vs leverage/(1-leverage

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-24 Thread David Firth
On 24 Apr 2005, at 05:37, John Maindonald wrote: I'd not like to lose the signs of the residuals. Also, as plots 1-3 focus on residuals, there is less of a mental leap in moving to residuals vs leverage; residuals vs leverage/(1-leverage) would also be in the same spirit. Yes, I know what you

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-23 Thread David Firth
On 23 Apr 2005, at 12:30, John Maindonald wrote: I propose the following enhancements and changes to plot.lm(), the most important of which is the addition of a Residuals vs Leverage plot. (1) A residual versus leverage plot has been added, available by specifying which = 5, and not included as

Re: [Rd] Enhanced version of plot.lm()

2005-04-23 Thread John Maindonald
I'd not like to lose the signs of the residuals. Also, as plots 1-3 focus on residuals, there is less of a mental leap in moving to residuals vs leverage; residuals vs leverage/(1-leverage) would also be in the same spirit. Maybe, one way or another, both plots (residuals vs a function of