Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-09 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] My proposal (modified following the suggestions I've heard so far) is as follows: - to check that a couple of help topic aliases exist (pkg.package and pkg) - to recommend that pkg.package contain general information about the package, and

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-08 Thread Torsten Hothorn
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] My proposal (modified following the suggestions I've heard so far) is as follows: - to check that a couple of help topic aliases exist (pkg.package and pkg) - to recommend that pkg.package contain general information about the package,

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-08 Thread A.J. Rossini
On 6/8/05, Torsten Hothorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] My proposal (modified following the suggestions I've heard so far) is as follows: - to check that a couple of help topic aliases exist (pkg.package and pkg) - to recommend

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Hornik
A J Rossini writes: On 6/8/05, Torsten Hothorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] My proposal (modified following the suggestions I've heard so far) is as follows: - to check that a couple of help topic aliases exist (pkg.package and

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Henrik Bengtsson wrote: It seems that it comes down to two things: 1) a standard Rd topic or alias pkg.package, and 2) enforcing this standard with R CMD check. Pro's and con's for (1): Pros: - Easy to find overview information on a package, that is, you know *where* to find it. - Allows a

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Torsten Hothorn wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] My proposal (modified following the suggestions I've heard so far) is as follows: - to check that a couple of help topic aliases exist (pkg.package and pkg) - to recommend that pkg.package contain general information

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-08 Thread torsten
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Torsten Hothorn wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Duncan Murdoch wrote: [...] My proposal (modified following the suggestions I've heard so far) is as follows: - to check that a couple of help topic aliases exist (pkg.package and pkg) -

[Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
Hi, I would like to suggest a standard where all packages provide an Rd page with the same name (or aliased) as the name of package so that help(package name) or ?package name is always here. This especially of interest to large packages with a large package index. This page could explain

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Kurt Hornik
Henrik Bengtsson writes: Hi, I would like to suggest a standard where all packages provide an Rd page with the same name (or aliased) as the name of package so that help(package name) or ?package name is always here. This especially of interest to large packages with a large package

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Wolfgang Huber
Henrik Bengtsson writes: I would like to suggest a standard where all packages provide an Rd page with the same name (or aliased) as the name of package so that help(package name) or ?package name is always here. This especially of interest to large packages with a large package index. This

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
Kurt Hornik wrote: Henrik Bengtsson writes: Hi, I would like to suggest a standard where all packages provide an Rd page with the same name (or aliased) as the name of package so that help(package name) or ?package name is always here. This especially of interest to large packages with a

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
Wolfgang Huber wrote: Henrik Bengtsson writes: I would like to suggest a standard where all packages provide an Rd page with the same name (or aliased) as the name of package so that help(package name) or ?package name is always here. This especially of interest to large packages with a

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Robin Hankin
My 0.02: I use Misc.Rd for the purpose that Duncan suggests. I put things like details and rationale for package organization, pointers to the most important function(s) in the package, and perhaps function descriptors for ubiquitous functions that don't warrant their own helppage, but need

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: Kurt Hornik wrote: How would this be different from the results of help(package = package name) ? Thanks for that. I was not aware of this one; I like how DESCRIPTION is included and how the index is divided in functions and dataset,

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Gentleman
Robin Hankin wrote: My 0.02: I use Misc.Rd for the purpose that Duncan suggests. I put things like details and rationale for package organization, pointers to the most important function(s) in the package, and perhaps function descriptors for ubiquitous functions that don't warrant their

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 6/7/2005 11:12 AM, Robert Gentleman wrote: Robin Hankin wrote: My 0.02: I use Misc.Rd for the purpose that Duncan suggests. I put things like details and rationale for package organization, pointers to the most important function(s) in the package, and perhaps function descriptors for

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 6/7/05, Robert Gentleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Hankin wrote: My 0.02: I use Misc.Rd for the purpose that Duncan suggests. I put things like details and rationale for package organization, pointers to the most important function(s) in the package, and perhaps function

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 6/7/2005 11:59 AM, Robert Gentleman wrote: Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 6/7/2005 11:12 AM, Robert Gentleman wrote: Robin Hankin wrote: My 0.02: I use Misc.Rd for the purpose that Duncan suggests. I put things like details and rationale for package organization, pointers to the most

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Martin Maechler
Duncan == Duncan Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:12:57 -0400 writes: . The current .Rd files don't just document functions, they also document data objects and classes. But the main point here is that it's not good to have

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Gentleman
Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 6/7/2005 11:59 AM, Robert Gentleman wrote: Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 6/7/2005 11:12 AM, Robert Gentleman wrote: Robin Hankin wrote: My 0.02: I use Misc.Rd for the purpose that Duncan suggests. I put things like details and rationale for package

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Currently methods?e will look for the alias e-methods so perhaps package?e could look for alias e-package. On 6/7/05, Achim Zeileis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:43:37 +0200 Martin Maechler wrote: Duncan == Duncan Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 07 Jun 2005

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
I share Robert's `pretty strenuous' objections. Adding compulsory things for package writers seems to me to need very compelling arguments. Checking that a package does what it says (e.g. the code in vignettes can be run) is one thing, but checking it does things it does not say it wants to

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Prof Brian Ripley wrote: I share Robert's `pretty strenuous' objections. Adding compulsory things for package writers seems to me to need very compelling arguments. Checking that a package does what it says (e.g. the code in vignettes can be run) is one thing, but checking it does things it

RE: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Liaw, Andy
Let me add to the pot: I think Robert and Brian are against imposing additional _requirement_ on packages to provide an overview in .Rd, and I tend to agree with that sentiment. However, if such a facility is made optional (like vignettes) for package author/maintainer, then I have no problem

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Liaw, Andy wrote: Let me add to the pot: I think Robert and Brian are against imposing additional _requirement_ on packages to provide an overview in .Rd, and I tend to agree with that sentiment. However, if such a facility is made optional (like vignettes) for package author/maintainer, then

Re: [Rd] Suggestion: help(package name)

2005-06-07 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
My understanding is that one could still build, install and distribute a package that did not conform to this requirement but it would fail R CMD CHECK. Thus as long as you don't want to place it in a repository that requires a clean R CMD CHECK you are under no obligation to do it. But if you