Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-06 2:45 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? Well, that depends on when you downloaded it. I use the R version releases as bookmarks. If you last downloaded Rtools after the release of R 2.12.2, then you only need to look at the last section. The problem with collecting changes into those that apply to each Rtools version is just that the change lists would be longer: Rtools212 will get changes through several R releases. When there are compiler changes, RtoolsXYZ generally comes out during the previous R version, because the compiler may only work with the R-devel version. For instance, Rtools212 was introduced between R 2.11.0 and 2.11.1 and was updated a number of times up to quite recently. (It is now frozen, so if you download it now and are working with the R versions it supports you never need to worry about updates to it.) I understand, and I suspected this was the reason too. However, if you want to reformat the page, go ahead, and send me the new version. It's a hand edited HTML page so I'd be happy to incorporate changes that make it more readable, as long as it's still easy to edit by hand. Gabor asked how to know which version was downloaded. If you have the installer file you can tell: right click on it, choose Properties, look at the Version tab. If you didn't keep the installer, I don't know a way to find out, but it might be recorded in the unins000.dat file that the uninstaller uses. Of course, without downloading the new one you can't find out its version: so back to my original suggestion to monitor changes to the web page. I'll see if there's a way to automatically include the revision number in the filename. This is useful - I didn't know about this version number of InnoSetup. I've browsed the online InnoSetup help, but I couldn't locate what the version parameter is called. With it, would it be possible to use a [Code] block having InnoSetup write the version number to a VERSION file in the Rtools installation directory? That would make it possible to compare what's online and what's installed. Another alternative for figuring out if Rtools have changed would be to compare the timestamp of the installed Rtools directory (because you typically install immediately after download) and the Rtools213.exe timestamp on the web server. This could be achieved by moving the files to, say, http://www.murdoch-sutherland.com/Rtools/download/ and enable indexing of files in that directory. Either way, know about the version number is certainly good enough for me. After installing Rtools, I can simply put the installer file in the Rtools directory to allow me to compare to it later. (I kind of did this before by comparing file sizes.) I've just uploaded a small change: now Rtools.txt records the version number (and if I remember to update it, you can download only that file to see if you are up to date). There's also a VERSION.txt file that contains the version number, which is likely to maintain its format more consistently, so if you want an automatic check, you should look at that file. It's also on the web site. Thanks. I have added a batch file to the batchfiles distribution (http://batchfiles.googlecode.com) which locates Rtools and then displays VERSION.txt . If placed on the Windows PATH then issuing this command from the Windows console with no arguments will display the VERSION.txt file: RtoolsVersion A direct link is to the file is here: http://batchfiles.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/RtoolsVersion.bat It finds Rtools from the registry or if not found there looks in C:\Rtools . -- Statistics Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 11-04-06 2:45 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? Well, that depends on when you downloaded it. I use the R version releases as bookmarks. If you last downloaded Rtools after the release of R 2.12.2, then you only need to look at the last section. The problem with collecting changes into those that apply to each Rtools version is just that the change lists would be longer: Rtools212 will get changes through several R releases. When there are compiler changes, RtoolsXYZ generally comes out during the previous R version, because the compiler may only work with the R-devel version. For instance, Rtools212 was introduced between R 2.11.0 and 2.11.1 and was updated a number of times up to quite recently. (It is now frozen, so if you download it now and are working with the R versions it supports you never need to worry about updates to it.) I understand, and I suspected this was the reason too. However, if you want to reformat the page, go ahead, and send me the new version. It's a hand edited HTML page so I'd be happy to incorporate changes that make it more readable, as long as it's still easy to edit by hand. Gabor asked how to know which version was downloaded. If you have the installer file you can tell: right click on it, choose Properties, look at the Version tab. If you didn't keep the installer, I don't know a way to find out, but it might be recorded in the unins000.dat file that the uninstaller uses. Of course, without downloading the new one you can't find out its version: so back to my original suggestion to monitor changes to the web page. I'll see if there's a way to automatically include the revision number in the filename. This is useful - I didn't know about this version number of InnoSetup. I've browsed the online InnoSetup help, but I couldn't locate what the version parameter is called. With it, would it be possible to use a [Code] block having InnoSetup write the version number to a VERSION file in the Rtools installation directory? That would make it possible to compare what's online and what's installed. Another alternative for figuring out if Rtools have changed would be to compare the timestamp of the installed Rtools directory (because you typically install immediately after download) and the Rtools213.exe timestamp on the web server. This could be achieved by moving the files to, say, http://www.murdoch-sutherland.com/Rtools/download/ and enable indexing of files in that directory. Either way, know about the version number is certainly good enough for me. After installing Rtools, I can simply put the installer file in the Rtools directory to allow me to compare to it later. (I kind of did this before by comparing file sizes.) I've just uploaded a small change: now Rtools.txt records the version number (and if I remember to update it, you can download only that file to see if you are up to date). There's also a VERSION.txt file that contains the version number, which is likely to maintain its format more consistently, so if you want an automatic check, you should look at that file. It's also on the web site. Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 4/5/2011 5:01 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtssonh...@biostat.ucsf.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892]== Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik If a NEWS file were included in the Rtools distribution itself (and not just on the web site) it would be helpful since its not always clear which version you have on your system in the first place. However, adding a NEWS file increases the labor, and I'd be happy letting Duncan and others continue doing what they do without asking them to take the time to tell the rest of us what they did. Something simpler would suffice for my needs, e.g., a revision number in the name of the download file, like Rtools213.5107.exe for SVN revision number 5107. Windows 7 gives me the date my copy was downloaded, not the date of the last patch. On March 31, I downloaded and installed basic-miktex-2.9.3972.exe from http://miktex.org/2.9/setup;. Today, I downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.4106.exe and basic-miktex-2.9.4106-x64.exe. From comparing names, I inferred (a) the first was a newer version of what I had previously installed, and (b) that was 32 bit and the other is 64 bit. I installed the latter, and the problem with pdflatex disappeared. Spencer __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 11-04-05 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? Well, that depends on when you downloaded it. I use the R version releases as bookmarks. If you last downloaded Rtools after the release of R 2.12.2, then you only need to look at the last section. The problem with collecting changes into those that apply to each Rtools version is just that the change lists would be longer: Rtools212 will get changes through several R releases. When there are compiler changes, RtoolsXYZ generally comes out during the previous R version, because the compiler may only work with the R-devel version. For instance, Rtools212 was introduced between R 2.11.0 and 2.11.1 and was updated a number of times up to quite recently. (It is now frozen, so if you download it now and are working with the R versions it supports you never need to worry about updates to it.) However, if you want to reformat the page, go ahead, and send me the new version. It's a hand edited HTML page so I'd be happy to incorporate changes that make it more readable, as long as it's still easy to edit by hand. Gabor asked how to know which version was downloaded. If you have the installer file you can tell: right click on it, choose Properties, look at the Version tab. If you didn't keep the installer, I don't know a way to find out, but it might be recorded in the unins000.dat file that the uninstaller uses. Of course, without downloading the new one you can't find out its version: so back to my original suggestion to monitor changes to the web page. I'll see if there's a way to automatically include the revision number in the filename. Duncan Murdoch It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892]== Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik For the past few years, I've installed the development version of R tools with each new release of R. I encountered problems with this a few days ago, so I rolled back to Rtools212.exe. Unfortunately, I seem to have more problems with that version. My latest install was under Windows 7 Home Edition. My previous problems were on Vista, but I also have access to Fedora 13 Linux. I know that Windows 7 64 bit has problems with Rtools. Brian Ripley has had some luck using the tools (the bin directory) and Cygwin DLLs from last summer, along with the current compilers. I'm reluctant to back out the new versions, because I use Cygwin for other things (including OpenSSH) and don't want to get locked out of updates. I haven't heard of problems with other Windows 7 versions, but I haven't tried
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? Well, that depends on when you downloaded it. I use the R version releases as bookmarks. If you last downloaded Rtools after the release of R 2.12.2, then you only need to look at the last section. The problem with collecting changes into those that apply to each Rtools version is just that the change lists would be longer: Rtools212 will get changes through several R releases. When there are compiler changes, RtoolsXYZ generally comes out during the previous R version, because the compiler may only work with the R-devel version. For instance, Rtools212 was introduced between R 2.11.0 and 2.11.1 and was updated a number of times up to quite recently. (It is now frozen, so if you download it now and are working with the R versions it supports you never need to worry about updates to it.) However, if you want to reformat the page, go ahead, and send me the new version. It's a hand edited HTML page so I'd be happy to incorporate changes that make it more readable, as long as it's still easy to edit by hand. Gabor asked how to know which version was downloaded. If you have the installer file you can tell: right click on it, choose Properties, look at the Version tab. If you didn't keep the installer, I don't know a way to find out, but it might be recorded in the unins000.dat file that the uninstaller uses. Of course, without downloading the new one you can't find out its version: so back to my original suggestion to monitor changes to the web page. I'll see if there's a way to automatically include the revision number in the filename. The situation is that you have several versions of Rtools installers and have experimented with several of them to see which one seems to work and now can't remember which one you installed. If you keep multiple versions of R as many people do this is particularly problematic. Using strings on unins000.dat did not reveal anything although there was so much text it would be easy to miss. -- Statistics Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 06/04/2011 8:16 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? Well, that depends on when you downloaded it. I use the R version releases as bookmarks. If you last downloaded Rtools after the release of R 2.12.2, then you only need to look at the last section. The problem with collecting changes into those that apply to each Rtools version is just that the change lists would be longer: Rtools212 will get changes through several R releases. When there are compiler changes, RtoolsXYZ generally comes out during the previous R version, because the compiler may only work with the R-devel version. For instance, Rtools212 was introduced between R 2.11.0 and 2.11.1 and was updated a number of times up to quite recently. (It is now frozen, so if you download it now and are working with the R versions it supports you never need to worry about updates to it.) However, if you want to reformat the page, go ahead, and send me the new version. It's a hand edited HTML page so I'd be happy to incorporate changes that make it more readable, as long as it's still easy to edit by hand. Gabor asked how to know which version was downloaded. If you have the installer file you can tell: right click on it, choose Properties, look at the Version tab. If you didn't keep the installer, I don't know a way to find out, but it might be recorded in the unins000.dat file that the uninstaller uses. Of course, without downloading the new one you can't find out its version: so back to my original suggestion to monitor changes to the web page. I'll see if there's a way to automatically include the revision number in the filename. The situation is that you have several versions of Rtools installers and have experimented with several of them to see which one seems to work and now can't remember which one you installed. If you keep multiple versions of R as many people do this is particularly problematic. Sure, I understand the problem. I've taken a look at the installer, and it looks as though I can put the revision number in the filename and not the installer version number or vice versa (as current), but not both, without typing it twice, or adding an extra layer of scripting to insert it twice, or some other ugly solution. I've left a query on the Inno Setup newsgroup to see if I missed something, but it looks to me as though I'm likely to leave it as is. If you are installing multiple versions of Rtools, you should remember to name them so you don't forget which is which. Duncan Murdoch Using strings on unins000.dat did not reveal anything although there was so much text it would be easy to miss. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? Well, that depends on when you downloaded it. I use the R version releases as bookmarks. If you last downloaded Rtools after the release of R 2.12.2, then you only need to look at the last section. The problem with collecting changes into those that apply to each Rtools version is just that the change lists would be longer: Rtools212 will get changes through several R releases. When there are compiler changes, RtoolsXYZ generally comes out during the previous R version, because the compiler may only work with the R-devel version. For instance, Rtools212 was introduced between R 2.11.0 and 2.11.1 and was updated a number of times up to quite recently. (It is now frozen, so if you download it now and are working with the R versions it supports you never need to worry about updates to it.) I understand, and I suspected this was the reason too. However, if you want to reformat the page, go ahead, and send me the new version. It's a hand edited HTML page so I'd be happy to incorporate changes that make it more readable, as long as it's still easy to edit by hand. Gabor asked how to know which version was downloaded. If you have the installer file you can tell: right click on it, choose Properties, look at the Version tab. If you didn't keep the installer, I don't know a way to find out, but it might be recorded in the unins000.dat file that the uninstaller uses. Of course, without downloading the new one you can't find out its version: so back to my original suggestion to monitor changes to the web page. I'll see if there's a way to automatically include the revision number in the filename. This is useful - I didn't know about this version number of InnoSetup. I've browsed the online InnoSetup help, but I couldn't locate what the version parameter is called. With it, would it be possible to use a [Code] block having InnoSetup write the version number to a VERSION file in the Rtools installation directory? That would make it possible to compare what's online and what's installed. Another alternative for figuring out if Rtools have changed would be to compare the timestamp of the installed Rtools directory (because you typically install immediately after download) and the Rtools213.exe timestamp on the web server. This could be achieved by moving the files to, say, http://www.murdoch-sutherland.com/Rtools/download/ and enable indexing of files in that directory. Either way, know about the version number is certainly good enough for me. After installing Rtools, I can simply put the installer file in the Rtools directory to allow me to compare to it later. (I kind of did this before by comparing file sizes.) Thanks Henrik Duncan Murdoch It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892]== Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
Rtools don't provide TeX - that's entirely up to you - so I suspect it may not have anything to do with the Rtools version but rather your TeX installation... Cheers, Simon On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? For the past few years, I've installed the development version of R tools with each new release of R. I encountered problems with this a few days ago, so I rolled back to Rtools212.exe. Unfortunately, I seem to have more problems with that version. My latest install was under Windows 7 Home Edition. My previous problems were on Vista, but I also have access to Fedora 13 Linux. 2. R CMD check ends with the following: * checking examples ... OK * checking PDF version of manual ... WARNING LaTeX errors when creating PDF version. This typically indicates Rd problems. * checking PDF version of manual without hyperrefs or index ... ERROR Re-running with no redirection of stdout/stderr. Hmm ... looks like a package Error in texi2dvi(Rd2.tex, pdf = (out_ext == pdf), quiet = FALSE, : unable to run 'pdflatex' on 'Rd2.tex' Error in running tools::texi2dvi You may want to clean up by 'rm -rf C:/Users/sgraves/AppData/Local/Temp/Rtmpr6z3 r6/Rd2pdf55b96c9a' This is using Rtools213, downloaded April 4 from www.murdoch-sutherland.com/Rtools with R installed as follows: sessionInfo() R version 2.12.2 (2011-02-25) Platform: x86_64-pc-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) locale: [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4] LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base Thanks, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San José, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. For the past few years, I've installed the development version of R tools with each new release of R. I encountered problems with this a few days ago, so I rolled back to Rtools212.exe. Unfortunately, I seem to have more problems with that version. My latest install was under Windows 7 Home Edition. My previous problems were on Vista, but I also have access to Fedora 13 Linux. I know that Windows 7 64 bit has problems with Rtools. Brian Ripley has had some luck using the tools (the bin directory) and Cygwin DLLs from last summer, along with the current compilers. I'm reluctant to back out the new versions, because I use Cygwin for other things (including OpenSSH) and don't want to get locked out of updates. I haven't heard of problems with other Windows 7 versions, but I haven't tried them. 2. R CMD check ends with the following: * checking examples ... OK * checking PDF version of manual ... WARNING LaTeX errors when creating PDF version. This typically indicates Rd problems. * checking PDF version of manual without hyperrefs or index ... ERROR Re-running with no redirection of stdout/stderr. Hmm ... looks like a package Error in texi2dvi(Rd2.tex, pdf = (out_ext == pdf), quiet = FALSE, : unable to run 'pdflatex' on 'Rd2.tex' Error in running tools::texi2dvi You may want to clean up by 'rm -rf C:/Users/sgraves/AppData/Local/Temp/Rtmpr6z3 r6/Rd2pdf55b96c9a' This is using Rtools213, downloaded April 4 from www.murdoch-sutherland.com/Rtools with R installed as follows: sessionInfo() R version 2.12.2 (2011-02-25) Platform: x86_64-pc-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) locale: [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4] LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base Do you have pdflatex? It's not part of Rtools, it's part of LaTeX, as described in Rtools.txt. Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892] == Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik For the past few years, I've installed the development version of R tools with each new release of R. I encountered problems with this a few days ago, so I rolled back to Rtools212.exe. Unfortunately, I seem to have more problems with that version. My latest install was under Windows 7 Home Edition. My previous problems were on Vista, but I also have access to Fedora 13 Linux. I know that Windows 7 64 bit has problems with Rtools. Brian Ripley has had some luck using the tools (the bin directory) and Cygwin DLLs from last summer, along with the current compilers. I'm reluctant to back out the new versions, because I use Cygwin for other things (including OpenSSH) and don't want to get locked out of updates. I haven't heard of problems with other Windows 7 versions, but I haven't tried them. 2. R CMD check ends with the following: * checking examples ... OK * checking PDF version of manual ... WARNING LaTeX errors when creating PDF version. This typically indicates Rd problems. * checking PDF version of manual without hyperrefs or index ... ERROR Re-running with no redirection of stdout/stderr. Hmm ... looks like a package Error in texi2dvi(Rd2.tex, pdf = (out_ext == pdf), quiet = FALSE, : unable to run 'pdflatex' on 'Rd2.tex' Error in running tools::texi2dvi You may want to clean up by 'rm -rf C:/Users/sgraves/AppData/Local/Temp/Rtmpr6z3 r6/Rd2pdf55b96c9a' This is using Rtools213, downloaded April 4 from www.murdoch-sutherland.com/Rtools with R installed as follows: sessionInfo() R version 2.12.2 (2011-02-25) Platform: x86_64-pc-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) locale: [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 [4] LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base Do you have pdflatex? It's not part of Rtools, it's part of LaTeX, as described in Rtools.txt. Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtsson h...@biostat.ucsf.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892] == Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik If a NEWS file were included in the Rtools distribution itself (and not just on the web site) it would be helpful since its not always clear which version you have on your system in the first place. -- Statistics Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 4/5/2011 5:01 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtssonh...@biostat.ucsf.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892]== Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik If a NEWS file were included in the Rtools distribution itself (and not just on the web site) it would be helpful since its not always clear which version you have on your system in the first place. However, adding a NEWS file increases the labor, and I'd be happy letting Duncan and others continue doing what they do without asking them to take the time to tell the rest of us what they did. Something simpler would suffice for my needs, e.g., a revision number in the name of the download file, like Rtools213.5107.exe for SVN revision number 5107. Windows 7 gives me the date my copy was downloaded, not the date of the last patch. On March 31, I downloaded and installed basic-miktex-2.9.3972.exe from http://miktex.org/2.9/setup;. Today, I downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.4106.exe and basic-miktex-2.9.4106-x64.exe. From comparing names, I inferred (a) the first was a newer version of what I had previously installed, and (b) that was 32 bit and the other is 64 bit. I installed the latter, and the problem with pdflatex disappeared. Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San José, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: On 4/5/2011 5:01 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtssonh...@biostat.ucsf.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892]== Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik If a NEWS file were included in the Rtools distribution itself (and not just on the web site) it would be helpful since its not always clear which version you have on your system in the first place. However, adding a NEWS file increases the labor, and I'd be happy letting Duncan and others continue doing what they do without asking them to take the time to tell the rest of us what they did. Something simpler would suffice for my needs, e.g., a revision number That wouldn't let you know what version has been installed after installation. -- Statistics Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Rtools questions
On 4/5/2011 6:03 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote: On 4/5/2011 5:01 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Henrik Bengtssonh...@biostat.ucsf.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Duncan Murdochmurdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 6:22 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello: 1. How can I tell when the development version of Rtools has changed? I don't make announcements of the changes, you just need to check the web site. There are online tools that can do this for you automatically, but I don't know which one to recommend. Google suggests lots of them. I also asked myself this before and I must admit it took me a while to interpret the contents of the webpage. There are multiple sections, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2', 'Changes since R 2.11.1', 'Changes since R 2.11.0', and so on. Then within each section there are some dates mentioned. Given my current R version (say R 2.13.0 beta) and Rtools (Rtools213.exe), it not fully clear to me which section to look at, e.g. 'Changes since R 2.12.2'? It might be more clear if there instead the sections would be 'Changes in Rtools213', 'Changes in Rtools212' and so on, and within each maybe list updates by dates/version. More like a NEWS file. Then it would be easier to see if there is an updated available or not. Even a NEWS file only available as part of the installation will help decide whether the version you have installed differ from the one available online. Something like the following: == Changes in Rtools213 == [...] == Changes in Rtools212 == 2011-03-25: - Rtools 2.12 has been frozen. - We have updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions as of March 25, 2011. We added the du utility from Cygwin. We have dropped Vanilla Perl. The libjpeg version has been updated to 8c, and libpng has been updated to 1.5.1. 2010-10-18: [v2.12.0.1892]== Is this an Rtools version?!? - Prior to October 18, 2010, builds of Rtools212.exe did not correctly install the extras required to build R. Version 2.12.0.1892 or later should fix this. - We have now updated all of the tools to current Cygwin versions, and have updated the compilers, and included the 64 bit compilers into Rtools. See Prof. Ripley's page for the details. - Perl is rarely needed in R since R 2.12.0, so it is by default not installed. 2010-??-??: - The 32 bit version of R-devel (to become R 2.12.0 in fall, 2010) will be built with gcc 4.5.x, so Rtools212 contains a completely new MinGW toolchain based on gcc 4.5.0. == Changes in Rtools211 == [...] Just a suggestion ...and thanks for providing Rtools! /Henrik If a NEWS file were included in the Rtools distribution itself (and not just on the web site) it would be helpful since its not always clear which version you have on your system in the first place. However, adding a NEWS file increases the labor, and I'd be happy letting Duncan and others continue doing what they do without asking them to take the time to tell the rest of us what they did. Something simpler would suffice for my needs, e.g., a revision number That wouldn't let you know what version has been installed after installation. It worked for me today with MiKTeX, because I kept the previous installer in a place where I could identify it with what I installed. That's not as user friendly as NEWS, but it doesn't ask Duncan and anyone else who works on Rtools to rearrange their priorities to document something that I rarely read. (Even if I RTFM 24/7, I can't read fast enough to keep up with the changes and additions to TFM.) Spencer __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
