Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-06 Thread Suzen, Mehmet
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Hadley Wickham h.wick...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, November 5, 2012, Rolf Turner wrote: On 06/11/12 09:40, Iurie Malai wrote: So, R (as a language) can be viewed as an extended S language (S + some improvements)? And the R environment includes this

[R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Iurie Malai
In the Introduction and preliminaries the An Introduction to R manual says about R: ... Among other things it has ... a well developed, simple and effective programming language (Called 'S') ... . Now I'm a little confused. This means that language S is a component part of R? And S is not free?

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread R. Michael Weylandt
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Iurie Malai iurie.ma...@gmail.com wrote: In the Introduction and preliminaries the An Introduction to R manual says about R: ... Among other things it has ... a well developed, simple and effective programming language (Called 'S') ... . Now I'm a little

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Iurie Malai
Thanks all! At least for me, the manual text has a contradiction. If R is much like S, in other words it is a diverged S, as Michael says, it can't include itself as a component part. Regards, Iurie 2012/11/5 R. Michael Weylandt michael.weyla...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:43 PM,

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Patrick Burns
There is a bit of history in: http://www.portfolioprobe.com/2012/05/31/inferno-ish-r/ Pat On 05/11/2012 17:09, R. Michael Weylandt wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Iurie Malai iurie.ma...@gmail.com wrote: In the Introduction and preliminaries the An Introduction to R manual says about

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Iurie Malai
After reading the 'Inferno-ish R' the first thing that comes to mind is that R is very much like S, but it's still different (R is not S), so it can't contain the S as a programming language, as the manual says. Or I'm wrong? 2012/11/5 Patrick Burns pbu...@pburns.seanet.com There is a bit of

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread William Dunlap
: Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R? After reading the 'Inferno-ish R' the first thing that comes to mind is that R is very much like S, but it's still different (R is not S), so it can't contain the S as a programming language, as the manual says. Or I'm wrong

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Iurie Malai
-Original Message- From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Iurie Malai Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:38 AM To: Patrick Burns Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R? After

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Rolf Turner
On 06/11/12 09:40, Iurie Malai wrote: So, R (as a language) can be viewed as an extended S language (S + some improvements)? And the R environment includes this (extended) language + extensions? Are others getting as sick of this silly, pedantic and completely irrelevant pseudo-scholasticism

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Berend Hasselman
On 05-11-2012, at 22:04, Rolf Turner wrote: On 06/11/12 09:40, Iurie Malai wrote: So, R (as a language) can be viewed as an extended S language (S + some improvements)? And the R environment includes this (extended) language + extensions? Are others getting as sick of this silly, pedantic

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread R. Michael Weylandt michael.weyla...@gmail.com
On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Iurie Malai iurie.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all! At least for me, the manual text has a contradiction. If R is much like S, in other words it is a diverged S, as Michael says, it can't include itself as a component part. I'd think something like C/C++ --

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread David L Carlson
-bounces@r- project.org] On Behalf Of R. Michael Weylandt michael.weyla...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:48 PM To: Iurie Malai Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R? On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Iurie Malai iurie.ma

Re: [R] A general question: Is language S a component part of R?

2012-11-05 Thread Hadley Wickham
On Monday, November 5, 2012, Rolf Turner wrote: On 06/11/12 09:40, Iurie Malai wrote: So, R (as a language) can be viewed as an extended S language (S + some improvements)? And the R environment includes this (extended) language + extensions? Are others getting as sick of this silly,