Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-27 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 23:18 -0700, 刘力平 wrote: Dear Sir/Madam: Great thanks for R project and you contribution. I am Liping Liu, a beginner of R. Recently, I use R much. I wish you could improve the manual by making it search engine friendly. The Introduction to R page is too long. I am

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-24 Thread Patrick Burns
Okay, I've been convinced of both the feasibility and the desirability of a pdf. However, such a thing is unlikely to appear very soon. On 23/10/2010 20:23, 刘力平 wrote: Hi, all: My opinion is, provide a PDF tutorial is important, but not one web page containing everything. From the

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-24 Thread Patrick Burns
On 24/10/2010 04:35, Steve Lianoglou wrote: [ ... ] Speaking as as an older R-user to a new R-user, I can understand some of the frustrations you feel with coming up to speed with a new programming language. One piece of advice I have for you is that you should actually take the time to read

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-24 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Patrick Burns pbu...@pburns.seanet.com wrote: If you look at 'Introduction' through the eyes of a complete novice, it is really, really scary. Ditto. I had no programming background prior to learning R, and after half a minute glancing through the 'Intro to R'

[R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread 刘力平
Dear Sir/Madam: Great thanks for R project and you contribution. I am Liping Liu, a beginner of R. Recently, I use R much. I wish you could improve the manual by making it search engine friendly. The Introduction to R page is too long. I am often redirected to this page by goole, but I still

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread Patrick Burns
Perhaps 'Some hints for the R beginner' http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/hints_R_begin.html is closer to what you have in mind. It includes links to other documents that are possibly along the lines you seek. On 23/10/2010 07:18, 刘力平 wrote: Dear Sir/Madam: Great thanks for R project and

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread Liviu Andronic
(off-topic) Dear Patrick On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Patrick Burns pbu...@pburns.seanet.com wrote: Perhaps 'Some hints for the R beginner' http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/hints_R_begin.html Do you provide a PDF version of this human-friendly introduction to R? :) Regards Liviu

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread Patrick Burns
No (and I have an excuse). It is a tree of pages rather than a single document. My impression is that a pdf needs to be linear. On 23/10/2010 10:09, Liviu Andronic wrote: (off-topic) Dear Patrick On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Patrick Burns pbu...@pburns.seanet.com wrote: Perhaps 'Some

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread 刘力平
Hi, all: My opinion is, provide a PDF tutorial is important, but not one web page containing everything. From the perspective of end-user programming, most people will have a fast reading of your tutorial to get principles of R. When they become working with R, they need come back often to

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread Joshua Wiley
Dear Liping Liu, You may already be familiar with this, but most browser have the ability to search for text on the current page. Via menu's often something like Edit - Find or with the keyboard shortcut, Ctrl + F. This is much more convenient than scrolling through a long page of text looking

Re: [R] Feedback on you manual

2010-10-23 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi Liping, On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:18 AM, 刘力平 liping.li...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir/Madam: Great thanks for R project and you contribution. I am Liping Liu, a beginner of R. Recently, I use R much. I wish you could improve the manual by making it search engine friendly. The