Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-06 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le lundi 05 décembre 2011 à 19:01 -0600, Michael a écrit : head, tail and fix commands don't really work well if I have large matrix/array for which I would like to be able to scroll up and dow, left and right ... Could anybody please help me? RKWard has a good data editor, and you can open

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-06 Thread j verzani
Michael comtech.usa at gmail.com writes: head, tail and fix commands don't really work well if I have large matrix/array for which I would like to be able to scroll up and dow, left and right ... Could anybody please help me? Thanks [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

[R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
head, tail and fix commands don't really work well if I have large matrix/array for which I would like to be able to scroll up and dow, left and right ... Could anybody please help me? Thanks [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
For example, fix does have scrolling, but could we have a grid based or cell based viewer/editor just like Excel sheet or like Matlab's object editor? For some weird reason, fix can only show numbers a weird format... On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: head,

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
And fix doesn't show the full content... On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: For example, fix does have scrolling, but could we have a grid based or cell based viewer/editor just like Excel sheet or like Matlab's object editor? For some weird reason, fix can

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Bert Gunter
... and do you really think perusing thousands of numbers by eye is any way to edit/check data?! Personal viewpoint: I would say that this is a large area of statistics and data analysis that the discipline fails to address in any systematic way ... perhaps because there is no way to address it

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
And is there a way to show variables side-by-side for comparison? On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: And fix doesn't show the full content... On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: For example, fix does have scrolling, but

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread jim holtman
Have you tried ?View ?edit On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Bert Gunter gunter.ber...@gene.com wrote: ... and do you really think perusing thousands of numbers by eye is any way to edit/check data?! Personal viewpoint: I would say that this is a large area of statistics and data analysis

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
View doesn't allow editing? And not multi-window so I cannot put variables side-by-side for comparsion? Thanks! On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:37 PM, jim holtman jholt...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried ?View ?edit On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Bert Gunter gunter.ber...@gene.com wrote: ...

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread David Winsemius
On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:37 PM, jim holtman wrote: Have you tried ?View ?edit Or: ?pairs help(splom, package=lattice) (My preference is plot(density()) but the 2d density plots are slow so also use: help(hexbin, package=hexbin) -- david. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Bert Gunter

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread jim holtman
'edit' does allow you to change it. If all else fails, export to Excel, split the screen and then synchronize the two displays. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: View doesn't allow editing? And not multi-window so I cannot put variables side-by-side for

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
Are you responding to my question? I don't understand your answer. How's my question related to lattice? Thanks On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Winsemius dwinsem...@comcast.netwrote: On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:37 PM, jim holtman wrote: Have you tried ?View ?edit Or: ?pairs

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
Too bad... Browse[2] data.entry(x_range) Error in dataentry(data, modes) : Editing of matrix and data.frame objects is not currently supported in RStudio On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: In R-Studio, edit gives non-grid based format which is similar to

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread R. Michael Weylandt michael.weyla...@gmail.com
I think what most everyone is getting at is that the visual identification of numeric outliers is an exceedingly difficult task and one we humans are not well evolved for. Rather they are all suggesting you use visual techniques to spot and fix outliers individually. This practice has a long

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Michael
I didn't mean the speed of saving the file is slow... I meant the manual procedures of exporting and then opening Excel, etc. is slow and inconvenient and unproductive... On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:38 PM, R. Michael Weylandt michael.weyla...@gmail.com michael.weyla...@gmail.com wrote: I think

Re: [R] how to view/edit large matrix/array in R?

2011-12-05 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean the speed of saving the file is slow... I meant the manual procedures of exporting and then opening Excel, etc. is slow and inconvenient and unproductive... You may want to use RExcel then. Liviu On Mon, Dec