Re: [R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread Abby Spurdle
Duncan Murdoch wrote: > R is designed to be flexible, and to let people change its behaviour. > Using that flexibility is what all users should do. Improving the user > experience is what front-end writers should do. I don't find it > inadvisable at all. Well, that's a big whopping U-turn.

Re: [R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread John Fox
Hi Duncan, What you say is entirely sensible. Yes, it's primarily the silent part that seems problematic to me. Messages about masking are uninteresting until one encounters a problem, and then they may provide an important clue to the source of the problem. As to this specific case: It's

Re: [R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Hi John. I suspect most good front ends do similar things. For example, on MacOS, R.app messes up "history()". I've never used ESS, but I imagine one could find examples where it acts differently than base R: isn't that the point? One hopes all differences are improvements, but sometimes

Re: [R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread John Fox
Dear Duncan, On 2020-08-17 9:03 a.m., Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 17/08/2020 7:54 a.m., Ivan Calandra wrote: Dear useRs, Following the recent activity on the list, I have been made aware of this discussion: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2020-May/466788.html I used to install all

Re: [R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread Ivan Calandra
Thank you Duncan for the very detailed and clear answer! Best, Ivan -- Dr. Ivan Calandra TraCEr, laboratory for Traceology and Controlled Experiments MONREPOS Archaeological Research Centre and Museum for Human Behavioural Evolution Schloss Monrepos 56567 Neuwied, Germany +49 (0) 2631 9772-243

Re: [R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 17/08/2020 7:54 a.m., Ivan Calandra wrote: Dear useRs, Following the recent activity on the list, I have been made aware of this discussion: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2020-May/466788.html I used to install all packages in R, but for simplicity (I use RStudio for all purposes), I

[R] install.packages() R vs RStudio

2020-08-17 Thread Ivan Calandra
Dear useRs, Following the recent activity on the list, I have been made aware of this discussion: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2020-May/466788.html I used to install all packages in R, but for simplicity (I use RStudio for all purposes), I now do it in RStudio. Now I am left wondering