dalgaard
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Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice question is usually best set
pretty heavily
of spreadsheets (off-topic)
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice question is usually best set
pretty heavily in
favour of incompetence ...
S
Cc: r-help
Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice question is usually best set
pretty heavily in
favour
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice question is usually best set pretty
heavily in favour of incompetence ...
S
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Of S Ellison
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To: Thomas Adams; peter dalgaard
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Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give
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To: tea...@gmail.com, pda...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or
perhaps a way to get the desired results, give the other
issues in their analysis?
The prior for the incompetence/malice
From a quick read, the Excel error prior for incompetence
looks high but some of the other issues hint that the prior
for the overall findings was remarkably in favor of malice.
That's p(malice|evidence), not p(malice); surely that must be the posterior? ;-)
'tain't a great advert for
In case you haven't noticed, this is making the rounds in the media, including
a handful of references to R. See e.g.
http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/04/17/0215211/excel-error-contributes-to-problems-with-austerity-study
I suppose we can't fortune()'ify anonymous quotes, but I kind of like
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or perhaps a way to
get the desired results, give the other issues in their analysis?
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, peter dalgaard pda...@gmail.com wrote:
In case you haven't noticed, this is making the rounds in the media,
including a
On Apr 24, 2013, at 20:01 , Thomas Adams wrote:
One might wonder if the Excel error was indeed THAT or perhaps a way to get
the desired results, give the other issues in their analysis?
I think I'd reserve that suspicion for what they did with the NZ data:
Growth for 1946-49: 7.7, 11.9,
On 4/17/2013 5:18 AM, Kevin Wright wrote:
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au wrote:
On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
The final point does relate to Excel and any application that hides what is
going on to the casual observer. I will treasure this URL to
Can you resend this link please?
Thanks
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au wrote:
On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
...
Ouch.
(Note: I know nothing about the site, the author of the article, or
the study in question. I was pointed to it by someone
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:16 , Shane Carey wrote:
Can you resend this link please?
Psst:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2013-April/351669.html
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Peter Dalgaard, Professor
Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone:
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au wrote:
On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
The final point does relate to Excel and any application that hides what is
going on to the casual observer. I will treasure this URL to give to anyone
who chastises my moaning
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Sarah Goslee sarah.gos...@gmail.com wrote:
Given that we occasionally run into problems with comparing Excel
results to R results, and other spreadsheet-induced errors, I thought
this might be of interest.
Given that we occasionally run into problems with comparing Excel
results to R results, and other spreadsheet-induced errors, I thought
this might be of interest.
http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/researchers-finally-replicated-reinhart-rogoff-and-there-are-serious-problems
The punchline:
If
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Subject: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
Given that we occasionally run into problems with comparing Excel
results to R results, and other spreadsheet-induced errors, I thought
this might be of interest.
http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/researchers-finally
What a terrific article. Thanks for sharing! The more we critically
examine how research is actually done the more frightened we become.
Frank
--
Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chairman School of Medicine
Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University
: Re: [R] the joy of spreadsheets (off-topic)
What a terrific article. Thanks for sharing! The more we critically
examine how research is actually done the more frightened we become.
Frank
--
Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chairman School of Medicine
On 04/17/2013 03:25 AM, Sarah Goslee wrote:
...
Ouch.
(Note: I know nothing about the site, the author of the article, or
the study in question. I was pointed to it by someone else. But if
true: highly problematic.)
Sarah
There seem to be three major problems described here, and only one is
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