Re: [R] WinXP exhibits sluggish graphics window movement mouse tracking (repainting?) over windows graphics devices

2008-04-01 Thread Richard Yeh
Thanks for your message!  Yes, the fault was with my configuration ---
I changed the video card refresh rate setting from 75 Hz to 60 Hz and
the behavior is no longer sluggish.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Prof Brian Ripley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't see this on a much older and slower machine, so suspect a problem
  with your Windows.  It looks like something is set up to ask R to repaint
  after the mouse pointer, whereas Windows ought to be doing that.  Even
  then, R uses double buffering, so the repaint should be fast (provided
  graphics acceleration is turned on).

  If you want to try updated versions of R, we suggest you use 2.7.0 alpha
  and not R-patched.  But R updates will not solve Windows problems.



  On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Richard Yeh wrote:

   I just noticed when using 2.6.1, 2.6.2 (2008-02-08), 2.6.2pat
   (2008-02-21 r44582), and 2.6.2pat (2008-03-24 r44975) on my poor old
   Celeron D330 (2.6 GHz; 3.5 years old) running Windows XP, that the
   mouse cursor appears to be redrawn more sluggishly when the pointer is
   over R windows graphics devices than over the R console window or
   other applications' windows. The slowdown seems to start only after I
   plotting something in the window (running windows() to open the
   device does not cause any slowdown), but the behavior starts after a
   plot(rnorm(100)). The slowdown seems to depend on the area of the R
   graphics window that is visible. The slowdown also occurs when moving
   the plot window.  For example, if the graphics window is frontmost,
   and I want to move it until it is mostly offscreen, then the movement
   is jerky.  However, once the window is mostly offscreen, dragging it
   back onto the screen is smooth and fast.  (When I drag windows, I only
   see the frame, not the contents.) This seems to affect SDI and MDI
   modes.  The Windows task manager confirms that when the plot window is
   frontmost, Rgui.exe takes most of the CPU time.
  
   My graphics card is based on an ATI Radeon 7000, with 32 MB of RAM.
  
   I am surprised that I never noticed this before. Nobody else seems to
   have reported it to the r-help list. Is this problem restricted to my
   system? (My work machine is much newer, and I do not notice the
   problem there.)
  
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Re: [R] WinXP exhibits sluggish graphics window movement mouse tracking (repainting?) over windows graphics devices

2008-03-31 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
I don't see this on a much older and slower machine, so suspect a problem 
with your Windows.  It looks like something is set up to ask R to repaint 
after the mouse pointer, whereas Windows ought to be doing that.  Even 
then, R uses double buffering, so the repaint should be fast (provided 
graphics acceleration is turned on).

If you want to try updated versions of R, we suggest you use 2.7.0 alpha 
and not R-patched.  But R updates will not solve Windows problems.

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Richard Yeh wrote:

 I just noticed when using 2.6.1, 2.6.2 (2008-02-08), 2.6.2pat
 (2008-02-21 r44582), and 2.6.2pat (2008-03-24 r44975) on my poor old
 Celeron D330 (2.6 GHz; 3.5 years old) running Windows XP, that the
 mouse cursor appears to be redrawn more sluggishly when the pointer is
 over R windows graphics devices than over the R console window or
 other applications' windows. The slowdown seems to start only after I
 plotting something in the window (running windows() to open the
 device does not cause any slowdown), but the behavior starts after a
 plot(rnorm(100)). The slowdown seems to depend on the area of the R
 graphics window that is visible. The slowdown also occurs when moving
 the plot window.  For example, if the graphics window is frontmost,
 and I want to move it until it is mostly offscreen, then the movement
 is jerky.  However, once the window is mostly offscreen, dragging it
 back onto the screen is smooth and fast.  (When I drag windows, I only
 see the frame, not the contents.) This seems to affect SDI and MDI
 modes.  The Windows task manager confirms that when the plot window is
 frontmost, Rgui.exe takes most of the CPU time.

 My graphics card is based on an ATI Radeon 7000, with 32 MB of RAM.

 I am surprised that I never noticed this before. Nobody else seems to
 have reported it to the r-help list. Is this problem restricted to my
 system? (My work machine is much newer, and I do not notice the
 problem there.)

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University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax:  +44 1865 272595

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[R] WinXP exhibits sluggish graphics window movement mouse tracking (repainting?) over windows graphics devices

2008-03-30 Thread Richard Yeh
I just noticed when using 2.6.1, 2.6.2 (2008-02-08), 2.6.2pat
(2008-02-21 r44582), and 2.6.2pat (2008-03-24 r44975) on my poor old
Celeron D330 (2.6 GHz; 3.5 years old) running Windows XP, that the
mouse cursor appears to be redrawn more sluggishly when the pointer is
over R windows graphics devices than over the R console window or
other applications' windows. The slowdown seems to start only after I
plotting something in the window (running windows() to open the
device does not cause any slowdown), but the behavior starts after a
plot(rnorm(100)). The slowdown seems to depend on the area of the R
graphics window that is visible. The slowdown also occurs when moving
the plot window.  For example, if the graphics window is frontmost,
and I want to move it until it is mostly offscreen, then the movement
is jerky.  However, once the window is mostly offscreen, dragging it
back onto the screen is smooth and fast.  (When I drag windows, I only
see the frame, not the contents.) This seems to affect SDI and MDI
modes.  The Windows task manager confirms that when the plot window is
frontmost, Rgui.exe takes most of the CPU time.

My graphics card is based on an ATI Radeon 7000, with 32 MB of RAM.

I am surprised that I never noticed this before. Nobody else seems to
have reported it to the r-help list. Is this problem restricted to my
system? (My work machine is much newer, and I do not notice the
problem there.)

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