Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Patrick Connolly p_conno...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: | Dear Don and Bert, | Allow me to address some of your concerns below. Which you do very clearly by positioning your responses underneath what you're commenting on. That doesn't seem to be possible on SE. In

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-07 Thread Patrick Connolly
On Tue, 04-Feb-2014 at 01:11AM +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote: | Dear Don and Bert, | Allow me to address some of your concerns below. | Which you do very clearly by positioning your responses underneath what you're commenting on. That doesn't seem to be possible on SE. [...] | On Mon, Feb 3,

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-07 Thread Yihui Xie
For those defending mailing lists over StackOverflow, can you merge these threads so later readers do not have to move between multiple conversations? 1. Re: Should there be an R-beginners list? 2. Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-05 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: So in the end my proposal is not necessarily for r-help to go to SE, but more for R to have its own QA forum/wiki for helping R users. This could perfectly take the form of setting up its own open-source

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/02/2014 1:32 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear all, On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that StackOverflow is officially proposing user-generated content for download/mirroring:

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-04 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck ggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Marc Schwartz marc_schwa...@me.com wrote: Hi All, As I have noted in a prior reply in this thread, which began last November, I don't post in SO, but I do keep track of the

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-04 Thread Keith S Weintraub
Subject: Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? Message-ID: 52f00bd5@auckland.ac.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed For what it's worth, I would like to say that I concur completely with Don and Bert. (Also I would like

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-04 Thread Law, Jason
Subject: Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?) Dear Clint, On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Clint Bowman cl...@ecy.wa.gov wrote: Liviu, Thanks for the excellent description of the advantages of SE. However

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-04 Thread Clint Bowman
application. Regards, Jason -Original Message- From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Liviu Andronic Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 11:24 PM To: Clint Bowman Cc: r-help@r-project.org; Bert Gunter Subject: Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear all, On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that StackOverflow is officially proposing user-generated content for download/mirroring: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2014/01/stack-exchange-cc-data-now-hosted-by-the-internet-archive/?cb=1

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-03 Thread MacQueen, Don
Every browser-based interface I've ever seen has a number of features that I find to be huge deterrents. To mention just two: - They waste copious amounts of screen space on irrelevant things such as votes, the number of views, the elapsed time since something or other happened, fancy web-page

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-03 Thread Bert Gunter
Don: First, I apologize if this is off topic, but I thought I should reply publicly. I would only like to say thank you for so eloquently and elegantly summarizing my views, also. Maybe that makes me a dinosaur. If so, I happily accept the label. I find SO's voting for posting business

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-03 Thread Clint Bowman
Don, Thanks for the brilliant summary of my thoughts. Clint Clint BowmanINTERNET: cl...@ecy.wa.gov Air Quality Modeler INTERNET: cl...@math.utah.edu Department of Ecology VOICE: (360) 407-6815 PO Box 47600FAX:

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-03 Thread Rolf Turner
For what it's worth, I would like to say that I concur completely with Don and Bert. (Also I would like second Bert's vote of thanks to Don for expressing the position so clearly.) cheers, Rolf Turner On 04/02/14 09:56, Bert Gunter wrote: Don: First, I apologize if this is off topic,

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Harding
Ditto. And ditto. And (by the way -- no-one seems to have mentioned it) what are the possibilities, for mail appearing on something like Stack Exchange, of having the mail sent to oneself so that it can be stored locally, on one's own machine? That is the only way I would want to work -- anything

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-03 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear Don and Bert, Allow me to address some of your concerns below. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Bert Gunter gunter.ber...@gene.com wrote: I find SO's voting for posting business especially irritating. I wish merely to post or to read the posts of others without being subjected to some

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-03 Thread Clint Bowman
Liviu, Thanks for the excellent description of the advantages of SE. However, there is a significant fraction of the population that prefers that information be pushed out to them rather than having to pull it to them. The best system is one that accommodates both equally well. Clint

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-03 Thread Barry Rowlingson
As one of the original ranters of hey lets move to StackOverflow a few years back (see my UseR! lightning talk from Warwick) I should probably stick my oar in. I don't think the SO model is a good model for all the discussions that go on on R-help. I think SO is a good model for questions that

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-03 Thread Marc Schwartz
Hi All, As I have noted in a prior reply in this thread, which began last November, I don't post in SO, but I do keep track of the traffic there via RSS feeds. However, the RSS feeds are primarily for new posts and do not seem to update with follow ups to the initial post. I do wish that they

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ?

2014-02-03 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Marc Schwartz marc_schwa...@me.com wrote: Hi All, As I have noted in a prior reply in this thread, which began last November, I don't post in SO, but I do keep track of the traffic there via RSS feeds. However, the RSS feeds are primarily for new posts and

Re: [R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-03 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear Clint, On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Clint Bowman cl...@ecy.wa.gov wrote: Liviu, Thanks for the excellent description of the advantages of SE. However, there is a significant fraction of the population that prefers that information be pushed out to them rather than having to pull it

[R] creating an equivalent of r-help on r.stackexchange.com ? (was: Re: Should there be an R-beginners list?)

2014-02-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear Duncan, I discovered something interesting wrt to the licensing and mirroring of user-contributed material on StackExchange. Please read below. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not aware of a discussion on this, but I would say no.