[R] **OFF TOPIC**: Fabrication of Scientific Data by Generative AI

2023-11-22 Thread Bert Gunter
All: **OFF TOPIC** -- feel free to respond to me personally, but I will not respond to on-list comments. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03635-w Many of you will no doubt know of this already. I hope it will be of interest to all concerned with research replicability, integrity, and

[R] **Off Topic**, but perhaps of interest to many on this list

2023-10-06 Thread Bert Gunter
** Please Do Not Respond** This is only FYI for those who care to follow the link below. Explanation: Many questions that appear on this list are about how to organize and format data -- unsurprising, as data structures are an essential component of software and algorithm development in general,

Re: [R] OFF TOPIC: chatGPT glibly produces a lot of wrong answers?

2023-08-13 Thread Jim Lemon
Hi Bert, The article notes that chatGPT often gets the concept wrong, rather than the facts. I think this can be traced to the one who poses the question. I have often encountered requests for help that did not ask for what was really wanted. I was recently asked if I could graphically concatenate

Re: [R] OFF TOPIC: chatGPT glibly produces a lot of wrong answers?

2023-08-13 Thread CALUM POLWART
It does often behave better if you say to it "that doesn't seem to be working" and perhaps some error message It is afterall a language tool. Its function is to provide text that seems real. If you ask it a science question and ask it to provide references in Vancouver format, it can format the

Re: [R] OFF TOPIC: chatGPT glibly produces a lot of wrong answers?

2023-08-13 Thread Stephen H. Dawson, DSL via R-help
Thanks. https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-ai-hackers-can-simply-talk-computers-into-misbehaving-ad488686?mod=hp_lead_pos10 Ever heard of AI prompt injection? *Stephen Dawson, DSL* /Executive Strategy Consultant/ Business & Technology +1 (865) 804-3454 http://www.shdawson.com On 8/13/23

[R] OFF TOPIC: chatGPT glibly produces a lot of wrong answers?

2023-08-13 Thread Bert Gunter
**OFF TOPIC** but perhaps of interest to some on this list. I apologize in advance to those who may be offended. The byline: "ChatGPT's odds of getting code questions correct are worse than a coin flip But its suggestions are so annoyingly plausible"

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-18 Thread avi.e.gross
he Wolfram Knowledge base to pass through natural language queries ... Avi -Original Message- From: Hadley Wickham Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 6:10 PM To: avi.e.gr...@gmail.com Cc: Jim Lemon ; Ebert,Timothy Aaron ; R-help Subject: Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter >

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-18 Thread Hadley Wickham
> I am not sure what your example means but text to image conversion can be > done quite easily in many programming environments and does not need an AI > unless you are using it to hunt for info. I mean you can open up many Paint > or Photo programs and look at the menus and often one allows you

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-18 Thread Ebert,Timothy Aaron
Lemon' ; Ebert,Timothy Aaron Cc: 'R-help' Subject: RE: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter [External Email] Jim, I am not sure what your example means but text to image conversion can be done quite easily in many programming environments and does not need an AI unless you are using

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-18 Thread avi.e.gross
this kind of info, make this easier. In some ways, an AI can do much of the searching for you but with results that may be surprising. -Original Message- From: R-help On Behalf Of Jim Lemon Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 7:24 PM To: Ebert,Timothy Aaron Cc: R-help Subject: Re: [R] Off-topic

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-18 Thread avi.e.gross
-in functionality. So why would you want an AI to write assembly code or do it in a language like C but rather pick a language well suited for whatever task. -Original Message- From: R-help On Behalf Of Spencer Graves Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:13 PM To: Bert Gunter ; R-help Subject: Re: [R] Off

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-18 Thread Joseph Lucke
The near year as Metropolis, 1927. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 1:27 AM Rui Barradas wrote: > Às 00:23 de 18/07/2023, Jim Lemon escreveu: > > I haven't really focused on the statistical capabilities of AI, that > > marriage of massive memory and associative learning. I am impressed by > > its ability

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-17 Thread Rui Barradas
Às 00:23 de 18/07/2023, Jim Lemon escreveu: I haven't really focused on the statistical capabilities of AI, that marriage of massive memory and associative learning. I am impressed by its ability to perform text-to-image conversion, something I have recently needed. My artistic ability is that

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-17 Thread Jim Lemon
I haven't really focused on the statistical capabilities of AI, that marriage of massive memory and associative learning. I am impressed by its ability to perform text-to-image conversion, something I have recently needed. My artistic ability is that of the average three year old, yet I can employ

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-17 Thread Ebert,Timothy Aaron
the methods to best address the research goals. Tim -Original Message- From: R-help On Behalf Of Bert Gunter Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 2:46 PM To: R-help Subject: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter [External Email] This is an **off-topic** post about the subject line, that I thought might

Re: [R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-17 Thread Spencer Graves
I don't know about ChatGPT, but Daniel Kahneman won the 2002 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics,[1] even though he's not an economist, for his leadership in creating a new subfield in the intersection of human psychology and economics now called "behavioral economics".[2] Then in 2009

[R] Off-topic: ChatGPT Code Interpreter

2023-07-17 Thread Bert Gunter
This is an **off-topic** post about the subject line, that I thought might be of interest to the R Community. I hope this does not offend anyone. The widely known ChatGPT software now offers what is called a "Code Interpreter," that, among other things, purports to do "data analysis." (Search

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Avi Gross via R-help
.  -Original Message- From: Marc Schwartz via R-help To: Eric Berger Cc: r-help@r-project.org Sent: Thu, Jan 13, 2022 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages? Eric, With respect to your second point, as one of the moderators for the R-Devel list

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Jim Lemon
Hi, I wasn't going to contribute to this, but I've got a couple of minutes and the morning caffeine has hit me. My 5 Point Plan for taking life as it comes: 1) I don't like to help people, I'd rather trick them into doing it themselves. 2) I'm lazy and intolerant. If somebody wants me to do their

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Marc Schwartz via R-help
Eric, With respect to your second point, as one of the moderators for the R-Devel list, where the same considerations apply to all "official" R lists like R-Help here, the issue of plain text content restrictions is multi-factorial, partly with security considerations in mind, but has

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Avi Gross via R-help
Message- From: Kevin Thorpe To: Jeff Newmiller Cc: Avi Gross ; R Help Mailing List Sent: Thu, Jan 13, 2022 7:44 am Subject: Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages? This is an interesting issue and something I have been thinking about raising with my fellow

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Stephen H. Dawson, DSL via R-help
From: R-help on behalf of Duncan Murdoch Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:25 PM To: Kevin Thorpe; Jeff Newmiller Cc: R Help Mailing List Subject: Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages? Currently help for contributed packages is available on S

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread J C Nash
ehalf of Duncan Murdoch Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:25 PM To: Kevin Thorpe; Jeff Newmiller Cc: R Help Mailing List Subject: Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages? Currently help for contributed packages is available on StackOverflow, package-specific web si

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Ivan Calandra
hursday, January 13, 2022 2:25 PM To: Kevin Thorpe; Jeff Newmiller Cc: R Help Mailing List Subject: Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages? Currently help for contributed packages is available on StackOverflow, package-specific web sites and Github. I rarely read

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Stephen H. Dawson, DSL via R-help
Great discussion thread. The problem is not a mailing list. The problem is the inability to segment questions. Segment, by keyword or sub-directory (loose word) or any other compartmentalization. QUESTION What other technology options are available here beyond a mailing list? *Stephen

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread PIKAL Petr
umbers increasing? Cheers Petr > -Original Message- > From: R-help On Behalf Of Kevin Thorpe > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 1:45 PM > To: Jeff Newmiller > Cc: R Help Mailing List > Subject: Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages? >

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Currently help for contributed packages is available on StackOverflow, package-specific web sites and Github. I rarely read package-specific (e.g. RStudio) web pages, and have only posted questions there a few times, with generally unsatisfactory results. Most package developers (including

Re: [R] (Off-Topic) Time for a companion mailing list for R packages?

2022-01-13 Thread Kevin Thorpe
This is an interesting issue and something I have been thinking about raising with my fellow volunteer moderators. I honestly don’t know what the best solution is. Personally, I would loathe having to check multiple web-forums/mailing lists to find an answer. New users often do not appreciate

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-27 Thread Abby Spurdle
Further to yesterday's posts: I think the "n" value would be the maximum possible number of jumps, not the number of students. In theory, the minimum possible number is zero, so the distributions are more binomial-like than they look. Also, there was a mistake in my comments. The jump is from

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-27 Thread Abby Spurdle
Sorry. I just realized, after posting, that the "n" value in the dispersion calculation isn't correct. I'll have to revisit the simulation, tomorrow. On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:11 PM Abby Spurdle wrote: > > Hi Rolf, > > Let's say we have a course called Corgiology 101, with a single moderated >

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-27 Thread Abby Spurdle
Hi Rolf, Let's say we have a course called Corgiology 101, with a single moderated exam. And let's say the moderators transform initial exam scores, such that there are fixed percentages of pass rates and A grades. Rather than count the number of passes, we can count the number of "jumps". That

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-26 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/03/2021 10:25 p.m., Rolf Turner wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:41:00 +1300 Abby Spurdle wrote: I haven't checked this, but I guess that the number of students that *pass* a particular exam/subject, per semester would be like that. e.g. Let's say you have a course in maximum likelihood,

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-25 Thread Rolf Turner
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:41:00 +1300 Abby Spurdle wrote: > I haven't checked this, but I guess that the number of students that > *pass* a particular exam/subject, per semester would be like that. > > e.g. > Let's say you have a course in maximum likelihood, that's taught once > per year to 3rd

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-25 Thread Abby Spurdle
I haven't checked this, but I guess that the number of students that *pass* a particular exam/subject, per semester would be like that. e.g. Let's say you have a course in maximum likelihood, that's taught once per year to 3rd year students, and a few postgrads. You could count the number of

Re: [R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-24 Thread Rolf Turner
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:45:01 -0700 wrote: > "X = {X_1, X_2, ..., X_N} where each X_i > is an integer between 0 and n (n known a priori)" > > That is a multinomial, not a binomial distribution. A binomial > distribution can have only two values, success or failure. > > What have I

[R] Off topic --- underdispersed (pseudo) binomial data.

2021-03-24 Thread Rolf Turner
I would like a real-life example of a data set which one might think to model by a binomial distribution, but which is substantially underdispersed. I.e. a sample X = {X_1, X_2, ..., X_N} where each X_i is an integer between 0 and n (n known a priori) such that var(X) << mean(X)*(1 - mean(X)/n).

Re: [R] Off-Topic: Project Organisation

2017-05-11 Thread David Winsemius
> On May 11, 2017, at 9:33 AM, g.maub...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi All, > > this post is somewhat off-topic cause it deals with a meta issue related to > project organisation instead of real R code. > > I have updated my blog concerning a possible directory and file structure for > marketing

[R] Off-Topic: Project Organisation

2017-05-11 Thread G . Maubach
Hi All, this post is somewhat off-topic cause it deals with a meta issue related to project organisation instead of real R code. I have updated my blog concerning a possible directory and file structure for marketing research projects and data mining projects alike:

Re: [R] Off topic, but hopefully not totally irrelevant: on MS Excel and genomics

2016-09-02 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:10 AM, John Kane wrote: > Over the last few years I came to the conclusion that using a spreadsheet > for anything more complicated than my shopping list was madness. > I am now reconsidering my position on shopping lists. > ​I got a real laugh out

Re: [R] Off topic, but hopefully not totally irrelevant: on MS Excel and genomics

2016-09-02 Thread John Kane
and there and this is a great addition. John Kane Kingston ON Canada > -Original Message- > From: bgunter.4...@gmail.com > Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:09:46 -0700 > To: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: [R] Off topic, but hopefully not totally irrelevant: on MS Excel > and

[R] Off topic, but hopefully not totally irrelevant: on MS Excel and genomics

2016-09-01 Thread Bert Gunter
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/sifter/one-five-genetics-papers-contains-errors-thanks-microsoft-excel Cheers, Bert Bert Gunter "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and sticking things into it." -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip )

[R] (Off-Topic] Introducing a new R Blog

2016-06-20 Thread G . Maubach
Hi All, today I would like to announce a now R blog. I contains a few entries about the findings during my course of studies and my daily work: https://github.com/gmaubach/R-Know-How/wiki/R-Blog I hope you'll find my hints usefull. In addition you could have a look at a small R collection of

[R] [off-topic] R Homepage

2015-04-17 Thread Jinsong Zhao
Hi there, It's a off-topic post. It seems that the R home page changed a lot. There are no plot at the right frame. Why are they removed? Will it or an alternative be back in future? Another question is about the ``What's New?'' page. The latest announcement is not archived in that page. In

[R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Can anyone recommend a laptop that performs well running R under Linux? Thanks. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide

Re: [R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread Hasan Diwan
Any laptop that performs well with Linux will perform acceptably with R and vice versa. -- H On 11 August 2013 11:03, Mitchell Maltenfort mmal...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a laptop that performs well running R under Linux? Thanks. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

Re: [R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread Rolf Turner
I think that Hasan Diwan's assertion is a bit of an over-simplification. I have a Toshiba Satellite L850 that has no problems of any sort running R. However it *does* have problems with WiFi. The WiFi drivers for my laptop won't work under (any?) Linux system. Apparently (I don't

Re: [R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi, I have no real input here from personal experience, but the author of the coderspiel blog has these two recent posts about his experience with Ubuntu on (what seem to be) two very nice machines: The latest is a Vaio Pro of some sort. Ubuntu is a bit difficult to install, but doable:

Re: [R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread stephen sefick
I have a gatway running scientific linux 6.4. It runs R quite well. I had an old mac power pc running a special flavor of debian that ran R well relative to the hardware constraints. FWIW, get all intel hardware; Then the rest is up to you. Good Luck! Stephen On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:40

Re: [R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread memilanuk
Another +1 here for the ThinkPad series... they seem to run Linux distros about as well as most, and are pretty robustly built. I picked up a Lenovo ThinkPad T530 last fall with Windows 7 Pro on it, and have it currently set up to dual-boot into openSUSE 12.3. Ubuntu 13.04 probably ran the

Re: [R] Off-topic? Linux laptop for R

2013-08-11 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Perhaps it is bad form to respond to my own post but all the responses have been useful and I did not want to play favorites grin I am coming back to Linux after several MacBook years. Unfortunately the Linux for Laptops page is not as well updated as it once was. On the other hand,

[R] OFF TOPIC: Report on a conference on Integrity in research

2013-05-15 Thread Bert Gunter
For those on this list who are interested in Reproducible Research and related issues: http://www.nature.com/news/meeting-targets-lab-lapses-1.12987 Cheers, Bert -- Bert Gunter Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics Internal Contact Info: Phone: 467-7374 Website:

Re: [R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay

2012-05-05 Thread John Kane
: gunter.ber...@gene.com Sent: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:49:15 -0700 To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC -- Nothing to do with R. I thought readers of this list might enjoy the following. The link to the full article

Re: [R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay

2012-05-05 Thread John Kane
: gunter.ber...@gene.com Sent: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:49:15 -0700 To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC -- Nothing to do with R. I thought readers of this list might enjoy the following. The link to the full article

[R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay

2012-05-04 Thread Bert Gunter
WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC -- Nothing to do with R. I thought readers of this list might enjoy the following. The link to the full article is at the bottom. I hope this is not too inappropriate. --- Overconfidence in crime statistics doesn’t pay. In a new study, a team of criminologists

[R] Off Topic: Re: Calculating NOEL using R and logistic regression - Toxicology

2012-04-03 Thread Bert Gunter
Below. -- Bert On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Danielle Duncan dldunc...@alaska.edu wrote: Thanks for the response, I should have clarified that the NOEL is the smallest dose above which there is a statistically significant effect. This is not a scientifically meaningful nor defensible

[R] Off Topic: Lowess on Yahoo

2012-02-28 Thread Bert Gunter
Folks: Graphics afficianados might enjoy this link (although conditional probability is also mentioned!): http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/republican-nomination-extends-march-candidates-face-weakening-odds-152347629.html Pay attention to the graph. Never thought I'd see the phrase lowess

[R] Off topic -- A BAD idea. Was: Boxplot BUT with Mean, SD, Max Min ?

2011-09-26 Thread Bert Gunter
On the original question though, why isn't there something off the shelf that will do what I want? Surely, a boxplot using mean, SD, max and min would be a common enough need to justify it? Gabor Grothendieck replied: tarr is not a list or a data frame. Use.data.frame(tarr) so

Re: [R] Off-topic: (Simple?) Random Sampling when n is a random variable

2011-06-14 Thread Greg Snow
Center Intermountain Healthcare greg.s...@imail.org 801.408.8111 -Original Message- From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces@r- project.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Robinson Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:03 PM To: R-Help Discussion Subject: [R] Off-topic: (Simple

Re: [R] Off-topic: (Simple?) Random Sampling when n is a random variable

2011-06-14 Thread Andrew Robinson
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:02:52AM +1000, Andrew Robinson wrote: Hi everyone, I'm involved in a discussion with a colleague. He suggested a sample design for a finite-sized process that (to all intents and purposes) involves tossing a coin and examining the unit if the coin shows Heads.

Re: [R] Off-topic: (Simple?) Random Sampling when n is a random variable

2011-06-14 Thread Andrew Robinson
Robinson Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:03 PM To: R-Help Discussion Subject: [R] Off-topic: (Simple?) Random Sampling when n is a random variable Hi everyone, I'm involved in a discussion with a colleague. He suggested a sample design for a finite-sized process that (to all intents

[R] Off-topic: (Simple?) Random Sampling when n is a random variable

2011-06-13 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hi everyone, I'm involved in a discussion with a colleague. He suggested a sample design for a finite-sized process that (to all intents and purposes) involves tossing a coin and examining the unit if the coin shows Heads. I should emphasize that we're both approaching the problem from a

[R] [Off topic?] Time dependent Cox model fitting and validation

2010-05-20 Thread Jabba
DeaR users. framework These days i'm working on fitting an extended Cox model with time-dependent covariables and possibly time-varying effects. My data are in counting process format as described in TherneauGrambsh's `Modeling Survival Data', page 68. I'm trying to follow Harrell's `Regression

Re: [R] [Off topic?] Time dependent Cox model fitting and validation

2010-05-20 Thread Marco Barbàra
this is self-reply only to insert my real name __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal,

Re: [R] Off Topic: teenie weenie numbers -- Was: Precision level

2010-05-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 3/26/10, Bert Gunter gunter.ber...@gene.com wrote: represented) is important for numerical calculations, what is the smallest number that anyone has actually seen describing physical phenomena in science? There was a recent article in The Economist (The force is weak with this one, Apr

Re: [R] Off Topic: teenie weenie numbers -- Was: Precision level

2010-03-31 Thread Dimitri Liakhovitski
I spoke with a theoretical physicist and he said he encountered 10^-120. Has something to do with attempts to describe/explain the universe... Dimitri On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Steve Lianoglou mailinglist.honey...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Barry Rowlingson

Re: [R] Off Topic: teenie weenie numbers -- Was: Precision level

2010-03-31 Thread Ted Harding
There is a story (apocryphal?) about Fred Hoyle, many years ago, having come to the close of a public lecture about his work in Cosmology (I seem to recall that it was to the British Astronomical Association, a society of amateur astronomers, and therefore knowledgeable). He was taking questions.

[R] Off Topic: teenie weenie numbers -- Was: Precision level

2010-03-26 Thread Bert Gunter
*** COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC *** Although machine precision (smallest numerical values that can be exactly represented) is important for numerical calculations, what is the smallest number that anyone has actually seen describing physical phenomena in science? I've seen values of ca. 1e-20 or so

Re: [R] Off Topic: teenie weenie numbers -- Was: Precision level

2010-03-26 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Bert Gunter gunter.ber...@gene.com wrote: *** COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC *** Although machine precision (smallest numerical values that can be exactly represented) is important for numerical calculations, what is the smallest number that anyone has actually seen

Re: [R] Off Topic: teenie weenie numbers -- Was: Precision level

2010-03-26 Thread Steve Lianoglou
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Bert Gunter gunter.ber...@gene.com wrote: *** COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC *** Although machine precision (smallest numerical values that can be exactly represented) is important for

Re: [R] [Off-topic] problem with Tinn-R editor

2010-01-03 Thread Philippe Grosjean
Ask directly to Jose-Claudio Faria (jcfa...@users.sourceforge.net). He is the author and maintainer of Tinn-R. Best, Philippe Grosjean ..°})) ) ) ) ) ) ( ( ( ( (Prof. Philippe Grosjean ) ) ) ) ) ( ( ( ( (Numerical Ecology of Aquatic

[R] [Off-topic] problem with Tinn-R editor

2010-01-02 Thread Bogaso
This is not directly related with R however I would like to ask for a solution for my TINN-R editor because, I feel that lot many people perhaps use it as a reliable R editor and secondly I could not find any other forum only deals with TINN over net to discuss with. For quite sometime I have

[R] Off topic - Compendium of distributions

2009-12-03 Thread Francisco J. Zagmutt
This is not an R related posting but I thought it would be interesting for readers of this list. Apologies for any cross-posting Dear all Our company Vose Software has just made a very comprehensive “Compendium of Distributions” available for free online at

[R] Off-topic: looking for a categorical, NMAR dataset

2009-09-30 Thread Andrew Robinson
Dear Colleagues, apologies for this off-topic posting. A Ph.D. student here at U of Melb. is trying to find a dataset to use to demonstrate a technique that he is developing. He needs a binary response and ideally a categorical predictor, although the latter can of course be induced from a

[R] Off-topic: New website using R

2009-08-18 Thread Ista Zahn
Dear list, Sorry for the off-topic post. I've recently built a website using R and Rapache to process survey and reaction time data. I'm using ggplot2 to generate graphical reports for participants, and thought some of you might be interested in taking a look. I'd appreciate any feedback on the

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-19 Thread Gerard M. Keogh
project.orgcc r-h...@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject 18/06/2009 21:11 Re: [R] off topic but need your

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-19 Thread Paul Artes
Publication of Exploratory Data Analysis by John Tukey. Strange Tukey's name has not been mentioned so far. You should consider re-posting your most interesting question with a less apologetic title - perhaps you will get a larger range of replies. Best wishes Paul losemind wrote: Thanks

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-19 Thread David Winsemius
On Jun 19, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Paul Artes wrote: [...] You should consider re-posting your most interesting question with a less apologetic title - perhaps you will get a larger range of replies. You might consider (re-?) reading the Posting Guide. The OP was correct in thinking this is

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-19 Thread Paul Artes
I re-read the posting guide every night before going to bed. The usefulness of this list stems partly from it being a broad church with lots of experts. And my concern wasn't with the off-topic label so much as with the slightly inspecific title (although I should have made this clear - mea

[R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread Michael
Hi all, I apologize for this off-topic question but I need your help -- I know there are lots of experts here. As a lover and student of statistics, I am thinking of building a tree of various branches of statistics and keeping track of the greatest historical inventions/discoveries in

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread markleeds
agresti's book ( forget which one. there are two ) has an appendix about the history of categorical data that i remember being quite interesting. that's the only one i know of. On Jun 18, 2009, Michael comtech@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I apologize for this off-topic

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread Graham Smith
Could anybody give me some pointers about existing books/articles about the greatest inventions/discoveries in statistics? And topic list? You could have a look at http://www.amazon.com/Lady-Tasting-Tea-Statistics-Revolutionized/dp/0805071342/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1245356064sr=8-1

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread Steve_Friedman
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Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread David Scott
Michael wrote: Hi all, I apologize for this off-topic question but I need your help -- I know there are lots of experts here. As a lover and student of statistics, I am thinking of building a tree of various branches of statistics and keeping track of the greatest historical

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread Richard M. Heiberger
Alan Izenman suggests: I have lots of places worth checking out for him. It means a lot of reading. Probably the first (and best) place to start is the set of Springer books entitled Breakthroughs in Statistics, which was edited by Kotz Johnson. There' are three (3) volumes:

Re: [R] off topic but need your pointers about statistics

2009-06-18 Thread Michael
Thanks so much for the invaluable pointers folks! I just also wanted to note that my definition of statistics also includes data-mining, generic data-analysis, etc. , i.e. the statistics in the broad sense. Any more thoughts? Thanks a lot! On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Richard M.

[R] off topic -- publicly available datasets for opinions on the death penalty in the UK

2009-05-01 Thread Tom H
Hi, Apologies in advance for a question that's not directly related to R. I had a quick google, and didn't find any nicely formatted datasets that I could use for a quick idea I have. I was wondering whether anyone could point me towards a source of data for UK death penalty opinion. I guess

[R] Off-topic: Biostatistics book spam?

2009-04-13 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Just got what seems to be the first spam for a stats book I ever saw. It only has one review at amazon, and for all I know the author wrote it himself. This might be a decent text, but if so, I'd like to hear it from someone here. -- Forwarded message -- From: Biostatistics

Re: [R] Off-topic: Biostatistics book spam?

2009-04-13 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Mitchell Maltenfort wrote: Just got what seems to be the first spam for a stats book I ever saw. New tricks from CRC marketing? They are known to be among the more aggressive players in the market place. (Don't get me wrong, some rather nice people have been publishing with them.) At least

[R] Off-topic -- an eye on a stats presentation for clinicians?

2008-12-31 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
I've got a 20 slide Powerpoint set up against the expected day someone says Mitch, could you talk for a short while to the residents on how to use statistics? It looks good at this end, but I'd love to get at least one more pair of eyes on it. Any volunteers? -- Due to the recession, requests

Re: [R] Off-topic -- an eye on a stats presentation for clinicians?

2008-12-31 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Mitchell Maltenfort wrote: I've got a 20 slide Powerpoint set up against the expected day someone says Mitch, could you talk for a short while to the residents on how to use statistics? It looks good at this end, but I'd love to get at least one more pair of eyes on it. Any volunteers? I

Re: [R] Off-topic -- an eye on a stats presentation for clinicians?

2008-12-31 Thread Christopher W. Ryan
I'd love to take a look at it. I run journal club for our family practice residents and have to do this all the time (with more or less success; often less, it seems.) --Chris Christopher W. Ryan, MD SUNY Upstate Medical University Clinical Campus at Binghamton 40 Arch Street, Johnson City, NY

[R] OFF topic testing for positive coeffs

2008-12-17 Thread vito muggeo
Dear all, This is off-topic, however I hope someone can give me useful suggestion.. Given the regression model y = b0 + b1*x + e I am interested in testing for positive coeffs, namely H0: b00 AND b10 H1: b0,b1 unconstrained It is simple to estimate the model under H0 and H1 (there are several

[R] Off topic: SS formulae for 3-way repeated measure anova (for when aov() fails)

2008-07-20 Thread Mike Lawrence
Pursuant to a prior on topic thread (http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e4/help/08/07/17192.html ) where I found I could not use AOV to perform an anova on my large data set, I'm now trying to code the analysis by hand so to speak. However, as demonstrated below, when comparing my attempt to

Re: [R] Off topic: Tcl/Tk outside R.

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Lemon
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 08:28 +1200, Rolf Turner wrote: ... Yeah, well I see that it works for you --- but it doesn't work for me! I.e. my original script doesn't work, but Peter D.'s modification does work. Dang! Why are ``they'' always picking on me? :-) Hi Rolf, I have had the same

[R] Off-topic - Data needed

2008-07-15 Thread Bogaso Cristofer
Hi, I needed a historical time series data on number of students are in different subjects in their MS and Ph.D courses in US like how many students took Statistics, how many are physics, nuclear physics etc, for at least last 10 years. Can anyone give me some idea on how I can from where I

Re: [R] Off topic: Tcl/Tk outside R.

2008-07-14 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Rolf Turner wrote: I'm trying to learn about the tcltk package and its uses. Floundering around a bit ... Have discovered Peter Dalgaard's articles in R-News, which should help. Also James Wettenhall's suite of examples look like they might be enlightening, even though the indications are

[R] Off topic: Tcl/Tk outside R.

2008-07-14 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Peter Dalgaard wrote: Rolf Turner wrote: Can anyone give me a hint as to why it doesn't work when the the executable script is invoked directly (from tcsh)? Other than the fact that I'm using a Mac :-) . [Invoking unname -a gives ``Darwin TURNER-ROLF.local 8.11.1

Re: [R] Off topic: Tcl/Tk outside R.

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf Turner
On 14/07/2008, at 7:15 PM, Peter Dalgaard wrote: snip Odd... That _does_ actually work for me, so I guess the issue is Mac-specific. One thought: Tcl is like R; a core language where you load packages in order to do any real work and wish is just Tcl with the Tk package

Re: [R] Off topic: Tcl/Tk outside R.

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf Turner
On 15/07/2008, at 4:07 AM, R P Herrold wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Peter Dalgaard wrote: Rolf Turner wrote: Can anyone give me a hint as to why it doesn't work when the the executable script is invoked directly (from tcsh)? Other than the fact that I'm using a Mac :-) . [Invoking

[R] off topic

2008-05-15 Thread lamack lamack
Dear all, someone could explain why the following example is not a valid randomization scheme? Consider an experiment in which the six experimental units to be used are permanently fixed in a row and two treat- ments are to be randomly assigned to the units. (One can think of fruit trees or a

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