Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Detlef Steuer wrote: Hi again, ... This new rpm R-base-2.3.0-beta should automatically resolve dependencies. At least it did so on my machine. I would be happy to get a report, if you try to install this one and find difficulties or success!. Most important would be to report missing

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Detlef Steuer wrote: Hi, I`m the one to blame for the readme :-) and for providing the rpms. I am sorry, but the note was not primarily directed at you, perhaps (I am not sure) just as much at Linux in general, or Suse, or OpenSuse, or ... In any case, I am sure you do a great job at

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Gabor Csardi wrote: So you don't want to read that manual after all? :) I did not say so, not at all. The point is that it is not very helpful to say Read the manual when the the problem is very much one of not knowing where to look in the manual. Instructions for installing on a particular

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Detlef Steuer wrote: On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:51:57 +0200 . Sometimes it is very hard to think of the questions a new user has, if you do it yourself on a daily basis for years. I understand that very well. Now I can tell you that I used the info in the Hacking OpenSuse link you provided

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Detlef: For your information. A few days ago I ordered SuSE 10, the version corresponding to the old Professional. It arrived today, and was installed. When the R-base rpm was downloaded with Mozilla Firebird, it was only to open it when the download was finished, click the install with YaST

[R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
I have started with using R on Windows, and I am really happy about the system. Now, one of my other ambitions is to learn how to use Linux, so yesterday I downloaded OpenSuse and installed that. The next problem was to try to use R with Linux. And there I met the wall. I've understood

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Gabor Csardi
Tom, I'm irritated as well. Your email should go to some suse mailing list, this is a suse problem, it has (almost) nothing to do with R. Unfortunately i can't help you (even if i wanted), because i don't want to read the suse manuals. But if you want to use suse you may consider reading them.

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Brett Magill
Better yet, forget reading the SUSE manual. For a user at your level who wants to begin with Linux, but also wants a system that just works use Ubuntu. It is Debian based with the convenient apt-get installation system and very user-friendly. Brett www.ubuntu.com Gabor Csardi wrote: Tom,

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Baoqiang Cao
FYI: Installing and runing R on Fedora Core 5, as I witnessed, could never be easier. I have started with using R on Windows, and I am really happy about the system. Now, one of my other ambitions is to learn how to use Linux, so yesterday I downloaded OpenSuse and installed that. The next

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated) [Broadcast]

2006-04-19 Thread Liaw, Andy
Or just go Quantian and be happy: It has R and most of CRAN and BioC packages included. http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian.html Andy From: Brett Magill Better yet, forget reading the SUSE manual. For a user at your level who wants to begin with Linux, but also wants a system that

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread bogdan romocea
packages, courtesy of the Debian folks, is a breeze. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Backer Johnsen Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:05 PM To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated) I have

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Gabor Csardi
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 03:47:01PM -0400, Baoqiang Cao wrote: FYI: Installing and runing R on Fedora Core 5, as I witnessed, could never be easier. The thing is that i really believe that installing R on MOST linux distributions takes just 10 seconds. Only you need to know the right command.

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread François Pinard
[Tom Backer Johnsen] [...] I've understood that RPM's are somewhat like installing programs on Windows, so that was downloaded and started with YAST. [...] Then I discover to my big surprise that the readme file says that I need to have eight installed packages. Then it says Most of

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Gabor Csardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom, I'm irritated as well. Your email should go to some suse mailing list, this is a suse problem, it has (almost) nothing to do with R. Well, there's a maintainer of the SuSE packages, to whom you can complain. It is possible to put better package

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Detlef Steuer
Hi, I`m the one to blame for the readme :-) and for providing the rpms. If you encounter such big problems my readme sucks. But I'm open for critisism and will improve on the current situation for the release of R-2.3.0 next monday. It would have helped, if I got the error messages you saw. Now

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Robert Baer
Detlef Steuer [EMAIL PROTECTED]write: I`m the one to blame for the readme :-) and for providing the rpms. If you encounter such big problems my readme sucks. But I'm open for critisism and will improve on the current situation for the release of R-2.3.0 next monday. Even as you sit under

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread Rolf Turner
Robert Baer wrote: Even as you sit under seige, let me take this opportunity to thank you (and ALL the other countless developers, maintainers and list contributers) for the TIRELESS work you do to make R one of the most robust open source projects I know about. We the 'end users'. are

Re: [R] I am surprised (and a little irritated)

2006-04-19 Thread louis homer
Suse 10.0 needs to be upgraded. You could look for a very helpful previous posting by: Ro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Detlef Steuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Date: Sunday 15:57:22 You can get a suse 10.0 RPM at the CRAN site ( http://cran.r-project.org/ ) If you try