Re: [R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-20 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Chun-Ying Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, We used known Vm and Km to simulate the data set (time, Cp) without adding random error in there. Yes, the line looks like very close to a straight line. But why can't we obtain the correct values with fitting process? We used optim first

Re: [R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-20 Thread joerg van den hoff
I believe the following is correct: 1. first of all, as peter daalgaard already pointed out, your data Cp(t) are following a straight line very closely, i.e. 0.-order kinetics 2. for your diff. eq. this means that you are permanently in the range cp Km so that dCp/dt = - Vm/Vd = const. =: -b and,

[R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-19 Thread Chun-Ying Lee
Dear R users: I encountered difficulties in michaelis-menten equation. I found that when I use right model definiens, I got wrong Km vlaue, and I got right Km value when i use wrong model definiens. The value of Vd and Vmax are correct in these two models. #-right model

Re: [R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-19 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Chun-Ying Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear R users: I encountered difficulties in michaelis-menten equation. I found that when I use right model definiens, I got wrong Km vlaue, and I got right Km value when i use wrong model definiens. The value of Vd and Vmax are correct in these

Re: [R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-19 Thread joerg van den hoff
Chun-Ying Lee wrote: Dear R users: I encountered difficulties in michaelis-menten equation. I found that when I use right model definiens, I got wrong Km vlaue, and I got right Km value when i use wrong model definiens. The value of Vd and Vmax are correct in these two models.

Re: [R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-19 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Peter Dalgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chun-Ying Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear R users: I encountered difficulties in michaelis-menten equation. I found that when I use right model definiens, I got wrong Km vlaue, and I got right Km value when i use wrong model definiens.

Re: [R] Michaelis-menten equation

2005-07-19 Thread Chun-Ying Lee
Hi, We used known Vm and Km to simulate the data set (time, Cp) without adding random error in there. Yes, the line looks like very close to a straight line. But why can't we obtain the correct values with fitting process? We used optim first and then followed by using nls to fit the model.