Re: [R] Partially crossed and nested random factors in lme/lmer

2006-04-26 Thread Spencer Graves
1. Are you familiar with Pinheiro and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effects Models in S and S-Plus (Springer)? I've learned a lot from this book both about mixed models generally and about lme in particular -- and even indirectly about lmer. Examples in this book would, I believe, help you

Re: [R] Partially crossed and nested random factors in lme/lmer

2006-04-26 Thread Corsin Müller, Zoologisches Inst.
I do have Pinheiro and Bates 2000 and went through it several times – unfortunately without success for my particular issue. I was not aware of the article in R news or the mlmRev package you referred to, though. I will try with that. The example I gave was not self-contained. Sorry, my fault.

[R] Partially crossed and nested random factors in lme/lmer

2006-04-22 Thread Corsin Müller, Zoologisches Inst.
Hi all, I am not a very proficient R-user yet, so I hope I am not wasting people’s time. I want to run a linear mixed model with 3 random factors (A, B, C) where A and B are partially crossed and C is nested within B. I understand that this is not easily possible using lme but it might be