Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-16 Thread Simon Blomberg
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ted Harding Sent: Sat 6/16/2007 9:33 AM To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry On 15-Jun-07 19:30:45, Douglas Bates wrote: On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Probably when the statistical

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-16 Thread Ted Harding
On 16-Jun-07 01:12:18, Marc Schwartz wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 00:43 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Jun-07 19:43:55, John Kane wrote: --- Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think you mean A, not Z. First

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Greg Snow
-Original Message- From: Kuhn, Max [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:11 PM To: Greg Snow; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: RE: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry Greg, Thanks for the kind words about odfWeave

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Kuhn, Max
Greg, I have looked at ooconvert, but unfortunately the current version is limited to *nix, and I am currently in a MS windows world. I tried getting it to run under cygwin at one point, but did not succeed at the time. Once it is available more generally, I will just set up Makefiles so

[R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Nicholas Lewin-Koh
Hi, I just saw this thread. This issue, and the larger scale issue of open source in industry is being addressed. One has to realize that the behemoth that is the clinical aperatus of the pharma industry is very conservative and very slow to change. In many cases switching to R would meean

[R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Cody_Hamilton
Nicholas, You're making me depressed! Cody Hamilton, PhD Edwards Lifesciences Hi, I just saw this thread. This issue, and the larger scale issue of open source in industry is being addressed. One has to realize that the behemoth that is the clinical aperatus of the pharma industry is very

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Douglas Bates
On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just saw this thread. This issue, and the larger scale issue of open source in industry is being addressed. One has to realize that the behemoth that is the clinical aperatus of the pharma industry is very conservative and very

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread John Kane
--- Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just saw this thread. This issue, and the larger scale issue of open source in industry is being addressed. One has to realize that the behemoth that is the clinical aperatus

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Ted Harding
On 15-Jun-07 19:30:45, Douglas Bates wrote: On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Probably when the statistical community is using Z big pharma will be ready to use R. %P I think you mean A, not Z. First there was S, then there was R. And, furthermore, A is

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Ted Harding
On 15-Jun-07 19:43:55, John Kane wrote: --- Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think you mean A, not Z. First there was S, then there was R. We're regressing But not to mediocrity! [1] Ted. [1] Practical

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-15 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 00:43 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Jun-07 19:43:55, John Kane wrote: --- Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/15/07, Nicholas Lewin-Koh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think you mean A, not Z. First there was S, then there was R. We're

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-14 Thread Greg Snow
4:07 PM To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry I should have also noted that Sweave is available for use with R. This is offset, however, by the fact that I will probably never be able to convince anyone to use Latex. This is a pity as I

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-14 Thread Cody_Hamilton
@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry I should have also noted that Sweave is available for use with R. This is offset, however, by the fact that I will probably never be able to convince anyone to use Latex. This is a pity as I often find myself admiring reports

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-14 Thread Greg Snow
@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry Greg, This is very interesting. Perhaps something similar could be worked out here. Do you have to get MS Word users to work only with the template you provide, or can they provide you any old MS Word

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-14 Thread Kuhn, Max
Greg, Thanks for the kind words about odfWeave. These reports are usually put out as internal webpages for various people in the organization to look at, so we could either go the odfWeave approach and generate pdf files (not as automated as I would like) I agree that automating the

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-13 Thread Cody_Hamilton
I should have also noted that Sweave is available for use with R. This is offset, however, by the fact that I will probably never be able to convince anyone to use Latex. This is a pity as I often find myself admiring reports done in Latex as opposed to the ones I have worked on in MS Word.

[R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-11 Thread Cody_Hamilton
Following up to some extent on Friday's discussion regarding the 'validation' of R, could I ask the list group's opinion on possible advantages of R over Splus from a pharma/devices perspective? I wish to exclude the obvious price difference, which doesn’t seem to carry as much weight as I

Re: [R] R vs. Splus in Pharma/Devices Industry

2007-06-11 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following up to some extent on Friday's discussion regarding the 'validation' of R, could I ask the list group's opinion on possible advantages of R over Splus from a pharma/devices perspective? I wish to exclude the obvious price difference, which doesn’t seem to