Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-17 Thread Spencer Graves
hadley wickham wrote: >> I think that is likely true but it would at least mean that they had >> seen it repeatedly and there would really be no excuse for not following it >> (unlike the current situation where one needs to take action to follow >> the posting guide link and then read a lengthy

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-17 Thread hadley wickham
> - The "inscription" page is dynamically generated by mailman, i.e., > typically python scripts. > If any of you are interested in patching Mailman's sources in > a reasonable way (i.e. easily reproducible for the next > version of mailman), I'd consider a change there; otherwise not. The

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Maechler
Thanks to Gabor, Spencer, and Hadley, for the constructive propositions. > "hadley" == hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:39:36 +0100 writes: >> I think that is likely true but it would at least mean that they had >> seen it repeatedly and there would

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-17 Thread hadley wickham
> I think that is likely true but it would at least mean that they had > seen it repeatedly and there would really be no excuse for not following it > (unlike the current situation where one needs to take action to follow > the posting guide link and then read a lengthy page). Logically, that make

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 7/16/06, hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They might read it when reading other people's messages since > > it would be at the bottom of every single one. > > Perhaps, it might also trigger "same"-blindness: seeing the same thing > again and again makes it less and less likely to re

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread hadley wickham
> They might read it when reading other people's messages since > it would be at the bottom of every single one. Perhaps, it might also trigger "same"-blindness: seeing the same thing again and again makes it less and less likely to really percieve it. Hadley

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Spencer Graves
Hi, Gabor: Yes. Saying more often communicates less. Spencer Graves Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > I was trying to keep it to 4 lines making it more likely read > than a longer description. > > On 7/16/06, Spencer Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, Gabor: >> >> Sounds great. May I

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
I was trying to keep it to 4 lines making it more likely read than a longer description. On 7/16/06, Spencer Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Gabor: > > Sounds great. May I suggest a minor modification something like the > following; > > >R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 7/16/06, hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I doubt anyone actually reads the bottom of the emails, > and generally it is too late anyway, as they have already sent the > message. Much like the opening text in R, details in footer tend to > trigger legalese neurons and are

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Mihai Nica
Or just reminding the rules to the list now and then (as it was done today). I, for one, am happy I got reminded, and appologise for my previous posting. Trying to provide reproductible code forced me to find my own mistake! mihai hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, I doubt an

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread hadley wickham
Personally, I doubt anyone actually reads the bottom of the emails, and generally it is too late anyway, as they have already sent the message. Much like the opening text in R, details in footer tend to trigger legalese neurons and are largely ignored. I think it would be more useful to radically

Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Spencer Graves
Hi, Gabor: Sounds great. May I suggest a minor modification something like the following; >R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE include in your post minimal, self-contained, reproducible code as suggested in postin

[R] Trailing on r-help messages

2006-07-16 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
I would like to propose that we change the trailer on r-help messages which is currently: R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html to add the following 4th line: an