Rather than a separate beginners' mailing list or a posting guide, perhaps
what we need is a separate mailing list for discussing posting style?
-thomas
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With respect to 'tone' and 'friendliness', perhaps all that is
meant or needed is that people be polite and respectful. There
is never any need for being rude, either from the asker of
questions or from the answerer. I shake my head as often at
rude answers as I do at ill-considered questions.
Having followed the discussion about this posting guide, I'd like to add a few
comments. While I think that the *content* is fully appropriate, I am not sure
whether the *form* is the appropriate, for the following reason:
- The folks posting questions like I've installed R two minutes ago,
I do share Eryk Wolski's and Pascal Nicklaus' concerns that my revision of
the posting guide is somewhat unfriendly and negative. My problem here was
to keep it to a reasonable length, which meant eliminating sentences whose
function was mainly to be positive and friendly. Pascal put it
On Tue, 23-Dec-2003 at 05:31AM +0100, Eryk Wolski wrote:
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| I cooled down now and therefore give me a chance to explain why
| that user guide scares me.
A few comments:
| As I said, the guide had given me the feeling that someone wants to
| censor me.
You mean you reacted in a way
I think the idea of answering simple questions if it hasn't
been answered after 4 * runif(1) hours is a brilliant idea
(well done Tony -- I'm jealous). However, a slight tweak
would be even better.
It should be
number of years you've used S times runif(1) hours.
This encourages more people to
This is in response to Gabor Grothendieck's commentary on Tony
Plate's draft guidelines for question-askers, which was posted a
couple of days ago.
I disagree, from mildly to vehemently with just about everything in
Grothendieck's posting. E.g. the ``tone'' of the draft should not
be
I don't study carefully every piece of available documentation for
everything (anything?) I do. A major challenge is how to provide a
guide that will get used and will in the process improve the quality of
questions and answers.
Best Wishes,
spencer graves
Rolf Turner wrote:
How about some sort of happy medium?
e.g., in the posting guide include something like
'The people who wrote R, and the people who answers questions on
R-help, are volunteers. R software is the product of thousands of hours
of time by many highly trained and highly intelligent people. Please
Hi!
The guide are in my opinion much to long.
If someone posts a question to the mailing list its because he likes to get a answer
(fast?).
The Introduction proposed by Peter Flom and the Homework before posting section
will do it in my opinion.
The part:
Homework before posting a question.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:32:15 +0100
Wolski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
The guide are in my opinion much to long.
If someone posts a question to the mailing list its because he likes to
get a answer (fast?). The Introduction proposed by Peter Flom and the
Homework before posting section
I think there will always be disagreement when commenting about the
appropriateness of social behaviour. So I think we will do well to
understand the purpose of any proposed posting guide. It is not clear to
me where the list is going with regards to this topic. If the aim is to
produce a
Hi!
Sorry. Please take my last mail to the account that it was monday and I
had two hard birthday party's during the weekend. Probably all this
caused the problem to express that the style of the mailing list guide
shocked me. I asked this morning such a stupid(if you know the answer)
question.
A few comments...
Eryk Wolski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As I said, the guide had given me the feeling that someone wants to censor
me. Especially the first section of the Posting Guide: How to ask good
questions that prompt useful answers does this. The guide starts with
talking mainly
A.J. Rossini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, the amount (and quality) of
(freely-available, at least for the cost of download, which might not
be free) documentation for R is simply incredible. The closest that
I've seen, for freely available languages, is Python, for actual
quality of
Tony Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
h3Common posting mistakes/h3
Doing any of the following may result in you getting a
response that you may find rude or insulting. (However,
such a response may be justified in the eyes of some because
you have wasted people's time or unjustly insulted
proposals and
discussions on this on their lists with little
counterpart on R's.
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:55:53 -0700
From: Tony Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [R] draft of posting guide
Here is a first draft of a guide for posters to r-help and
r-devel
Here is a first draft of a guide for posters to r-help and
r-devel. Suggestions on how to improve any aspect of it are
most welcome. Suggestions on ways to make it more concise
are especially welcome. Comments on which parts you like
or don't like are welcome. Rather than clutter up R-help
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