Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-12 Thread Achim Zeileis
, 2005 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information. I just checked: pf(39540, 1, 7025, lower.tail=FALSE, log.p=TRUE) [1] -Inf This is not correct. With 7025 denominator degrees of freedom, we might use the chi-square approximation

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-12 Thread S.O. Nyangoma
If they have the same degrees of freedom, use the test statistic and not the p value for comparing them. Z I appretiate your input to this discussion. Do you know of a reference to your statement above? I had actually used the test-statistic which in my case is r-squared to compare them.

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-12 Thread Achim Zeileis
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, S.O. Nyangoma wrote: If they have the same degrees of freedom, use the test statistic and not the p value for comparing them. Z I appretiate your input to this discussion. Do you know of a reference to your statement above? ?? Any basic statistics book?

[R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-11 Thread S.O. Nyangoma
Hi there, If I do an lm, I get p-vlues as p-value: 2.2e-16 This is obtained from F =39540 with df1 = 1, df2 = 7025. Suppose am interested in exact value such as p-value = 1.6e-16 (note = and not ) How do I go about it? stephen __

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-11 Thread Achim Zeileis
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, S.O. Nyangoma wrote: Hi there, If I do an lm, I get p-vlues as p-value: 2.2e-16 This is obtained from F =39540 with df1 = 1, df2 = 7025. Suppose am interested in exact value such as p-value = 1.6e-16 (note = and not ) How do I go about it? You can always

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-11 Thread Spencer Graves
I just checked: pf(39540, 1, 7025, lower.tail=FALSE, log.p=TRUE) [1] -Inf This is not correct. With 7025 denominator degrees of freedom, we might use the chi-square approximation to the F distribution: pchisq(39540, 1, lower.tail=FALSE, log.p=TRUE) [1]

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-11 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
Compare the following t.test( 1:100, 101:200 )$p.value t.test( 1:100, 101:200 ) In the latter, the print method truncates to 2.2e-16. You can go as far as (depending on your machine) .Machine$double.xmin [1] 2.225074e-308 before it becomes indistinguishable from zero. But there

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-11 Thread S.O. Nyangoma
an article using this method? Regards. Stephen. - Original Message - From: Spencer Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information. I just checked: pf(39540, 1, 7025, lower.tail=FALSE, log.p=TRUE

Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information.

2005-07-11 Thread Spencer Graves
: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [R] exact values for p-values - more information. I just checked: pf(39540, 1, 7025, lower.tail=FALSE, log.p=TRUE) [1] -Inf This is not correct. With 7025 denominator degrees of freedom, we might use the chi-square approximation