Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-27 Thread Jacques Veslot
think it could be quite useful for most r-users to (keep r-project web site as functional as today but to) offer a links page complementary to other Documentation pages that could link to some of the numerous resources (scripts, etc) on the internet in personal home pages or academic sites

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Romain Francois
Hi, To sum up : * yes, the R website is operationnal. There is no reason whatsoever to change its content. * no javascript, no flash, no chartjunk !! * rework the style, start wih the css file(s) * stop with those frames, and use css to place some kind of fake frames * maybe store the name of

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
The webmasters have not AFAICS replied in this thread, and perhaps you should wait for them. In particular, making cran.r-project.org an autodirector to the nearest mirror and replacing frames have I believe already been agreed and just need resources to implement (and first www. and

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Romain Francois wrote: What about - place somewhere a div called 'Focus on a package' where we could have a short presentation of a package, etc ... or for a CRAN task view (to do that, php would be great, but we can do I don't know perl scripts to generate static html pages) - a

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Romain Francois
Le 26.04.2006 12:14, Prof Brian Ripley a écrit : The webmasters have not AFAICS replied in this thread, and perhaps you should wait for them. In particular, making cran.r-project.org an autodirector to the nearest mirror and replacing frames have I believe already been agreed and just

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Romain Francois wrote: Dear R users and developpers, My question is adressed to both of you, so I choose R-help to post it. Are there any plans to jazz up the main R website : http://www.r-project.org The look it have now is the same for a long time and kind of sad compared to other

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Jacques Veslot
what about improving the Links page, with for instance a list of links - such as thoses in task views - grouped by theme, instead of modifying r-project site ? -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] CNRS UMR 8090 - http://www-good.ibl.fr

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Maybe a separate web site that shows R off or maybe just a pointer to the R Graph Gallery. On 4/26/06, Duncan Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Romain Francois wrote: Dear R users and developpers, My question is adressed to both of you, so I choose R-help to post it. Are there any plans

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Anupam Tyagi
Gabor Grothendieck ggrothendieck at gmail.com writes: Maybe a separate web site that shows R off or maybe just a pointer to the R Graph Gallery. I think the idea of a pointer to the R Graph Gallery is a better one than changing the current R website. I think that the main R web site should

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-26 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
I am coming late into the discussion, so apologies if the following points are redundant. 1) IMHO, the most important feature that would make life a lot easier for everyone is having search engines on the main webpage. I know you can click on the Search on the left hand side pane but putting it

[R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Romain Francois
Dear R users and developpers, My question is adressed to both of you, so I choose R-help to post it. Are there any plans to jazz up the main R website : http://www.r-project.org The look it have now is the same for a long time and kind of sad compared to other statistical package's website. Of

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread roger bos
While there is nothing about the r-project site that I would consider fancy, it is pretty functional. I would be interested to hear more about what you hope to accomplish by re-doing the web site. Fancy graphics may just slow down the experience for those not on broadband. After all, the r-help

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Jonathan Baron
On 04/25/06 18:53, Romain Francois wrote: Dear R users and developpers, My question is adressed to both of you, so I choose R-help to post it. Are there any plans to jazz up the main R website : http://www.r-project.org The look it have now is the same for a long time and kind of sad

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread hadley wickham
Hi Romain, Generally a competition is a bad way of coming up with a new design. It generally emphasises looks over function and, of course, requires people to put in a lot of effort for a small chance of gain. I'd also agree with Friedrich that few people will enter. My opinion is if that

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Philippe Grosjean
Romain, The R Web site is working fine. Even if it is not relifted from a long time, it is functional. So, this is the point... and it should remain, at least, as functional as it is. One aspect that could be easily relooked is the CSS file. I would definitely be in favor of a more styled CSS.

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Barry Rowlingson
roger bos wrote: While there is nothing about the r-project site that I would consider fancy, it is pretty functional. I would be interested to hear more about what you hope to accomplish by re-doing the web site. Fancy graphics may just slow down the experience for those not on broadband.

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Clint Bowman
I must agree with Jon--the site is clean and material is easily found and readily available. I wouldn't want changes which, while visually stimulating, would detract from the clarity of presentation. What I don't see is a way for the visitor to contact the Web page maintainer to comment or

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Jonathan Baron
I volunteer to attempt this, but only after I get my grades in (May 8). If it gets done by someone else before that, I'll be happy. Don't worry. It won't look like my personal page, or even my R page. But I do know quite a bit about CSS. On 04/25/06 12:37, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 25

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 25 April 2006 at 13:18, Jonathan Baron wrote: | The only thing I might change is to replace the frames with some | sort of CSS-based positioning. Yes please! Dirk -- Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something.

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread hadley wickham
The R Web site is working fine. Even if it is not relifted from a long time, it is functional. So, this is the point... and it should remain, at least, as functional as it is. As an experienced user of the R website, this probably is true for you. However, there are a number of confusing

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread bogdan romocea
: Re: [R] www.r-project.org While there is nothing about the r-project site that I would consider fancy, it is pretty functional. I would be interested to hear more about what you hope to accomplish by re-doing the web site. Fancy graphics may just slow down the experience for those

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Philippe Grosjean
OK, I try... What do you think about the fonts and styles of titles versus text in... http://wiki.r-project.org? This is obviously in the line of: would we change the styles in the CSS file (while we are replacing frames with appropriate styles too)? May be am I a little confused. Normal.

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 4/25/06, hadley wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The R Web site is working fine. Even if it is not relifted from a long time, it is functional. So, this is the point... and it should remain, at least, as functional as it is. As an experienced user of the R website, this probably is true

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 14:09 -0400, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On 4/25/06, hadley wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The R Web site is working fine. Even if it is not relifted from a long time, it is functional. So, this is the point... and it should remain, at least, as functional as it is.

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Its not hard if you know what to do but if you don't then its a nuisance to figure it out every time. On 4/25/06, Gavin Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 14:09 -0400, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On 4/25/06, hadley wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The R Web site is

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Spencer Graves
see inline hadley wickham wrote: The R Web site is working fine. snip As an experienced user of the R website, this probably is true for you. However, there are a number of confusing problems for new users of the site: * how do you download R? * how do you bookmark a specific page?

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Windows, right click the web page, choose Properties and copy the url there. On 4/25/06, Spencer Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see inline hadley wickham wrote: The R Web site is working fine. snip As an experienced user of the R website, this probably is true for you. However,

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Manuel López-Ibáñez
Barry Rowlingson wrote: The frame-based nature of the CRAN pages is slightly problematic, since you click on a menu item and the URL doesn't change. Hence there's no way to send someone a URL that gives them the same view as you'd get if you go to the home page and then click on

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Spencer Graves
Hi, Gabor: inline Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Windows, right click the web page, choose Properties and copy the url there. That works, and I will use it in the future. Thanks. However, if the subject is not educating Spencer Graves but how to make www.r-project.org more user friendly,

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread hadley wickham
Isn't Other Contributed Documentation sufficient? Usability guidelines for websites suggest that you should have as few top-level menu items as possible, say 5-6 max... OK the R website is not like insert_company_name.com type website, but you wouldn't want to flood users with too many

Re: [R] www.r-project.org

2006-04-25 Thread Spencer Graves
hadley wickham wrote: Isn't Other Contributed Documentation sufficient? Usability guidelines snip However, this is heuristic for the number of top-level categories - there is no reason why there could not be a direct link to contributed documentation from the home page. I find it a minor