Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread Andrew Robinson
Dear Victor, this is a really difficult problem to intepret, let alone diagnose. Please provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code that will allow us to see what the problem is. Cheers Andrew On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:33:31AM +0100, victor wrote: Dear all, I've got a

Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread Doran, Harold
As Andrew noted, you need to provide more information. But, what I see is that your model assumes X is continuous but you say it is bounded, -25 X 0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of victor Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:34 AM

Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread victor
It is boundend, you're right. In fact it is -25=X=0 These are cross-national survey data (I was investigated 7 countries in each country there was 900-1700 cases). In fact, there was two level 2 variables, so: m1-lme(X~Y,~1|group,data=data,na.action=na.exclude,method=ML)

Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread Chuck Cleland
victor wrote: It is boundend, you're right. In fact it is -25=X=0 These are cross-national survey data (I was investigated 7 countries in each country there was 900-1700 cases). In fact, there was two level 2 variables, so: m1-lme(X~Y,~1|group,data=data,na.action=na.exclude,method=ML)

Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread Doran, Harold
, December 06, 2006 12:07 PM To: Doran, Harold Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] intercept value in lme It is boundend, you're right. In fact it is -25=X=0 These are cross-national survey data (I was investigated 7 countries in each country there was 900-1700 cases). In fact

Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hello Victor, I'm afraid that this still isn't what we're looking for, in terms of reproducible code, but we can guess. What is the range of the Z1 and Z2 variables? What is the range of the model predictions? If the Z1 and Z2 variables are large and positive then they will be compensating.

Re: [R] intercept value in lme

2006-12-06 Thread victor
Thanks to all of you! Yes, you're right - I didn't take into consideration the ranges of predicors which are quite large. I think the matter over and realize that my assumption that something have to be wrong doesn't have in fact any reason except strange look of the value. Centering helped (as