Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

2007-05-30 Thread matt.pettis
Thanks... I'll check the documentation to see which file on Windows I
need to alter to issue one of those commands.

matt 

-Original Message-
From: Prof Brian Ripley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:39 AM
To: Gabor Grothendieck
Cc: Pettis, Matthew (Thomson); r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

That was misleading advice.  R is a C program and accesses the
environment via the C calls getenv and (on Windows) putenv.  This is not
Windows scripting (Grothendieck's earlier reference): the C runtime
maintains only one environment block.

I've re-checked, and suspect the problem is in the following comment in
?download.file

  These environment variables must be set before the download code
  is first used: they cannot be altered later by calling
  'Sys.setenv'.

If I have http_proxy set in the environment, the proxy is not used in
any of the following cases:

- Calling R from a shortcut with http_proxy= on the target (see the
rw-FAQ).

- Calling R from a shortcut with no_proxy=* on the target.

- Using Sys.unsetenv(http_proxy) right at the start of the R session.

- Using Sys.setenv(no_proxy=*) right at the start of the R session.

If you set options(internet.info=0) you will see exactly what is tried.

Another possibility is that R is being used with --internet2, in which
case none of this applies, and the simple answer is not to use
--internet2 at home.



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:

 You can have 4 different http_proxy environment variables and if you 
 set one type but try to unset a different type then that will have no 
 effect on the one you originally set.  For example, if you originally 
 set it as a system or user environment variable and then try to unset 
 the process environment variable of the same name then that will have 
 no effect on the system or user environment variable.

 On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Gabor,

 Thanks for the reply and link.

 I took a look at the link -- one thing I don't understand is why if I
delete the 'http_proxy' variable via the cmd shell (or equivalent OS
dialog box), why I can get R to ignore the proxy, but using
Sys.setenv(http_proxy=) won't do that for me (at least for the scope
of the session).  If there were other variables affecting it, I would
think my deleting 'http_proxy' in the OS would also have no effect --
yet it does.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks again,
 Matt


 -Original Message-
 From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tue 5/29/2007 9:49 PM
 To: Pettis, Matthew (Thomson)
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

 Note that Windows XP has 4 types of environment variables and I 
 suspect that the problem stems from not taking that into account:

 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/guide/sas_wsh_kmmj.mspx
 ?mfr=true

 On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to use R at work and at home on the same computer.  At
work, I have a proxy, and at home, I do not.  I have, for work, a User
environment variable http_proxy which I set in the OS (Windows XP
Pro).  When I am at work, and I try to retrieve data from the web with
'read.csv', things work just fine.  I assume it knows how to use the
proxy.

 The trouble is when I am at home and have no proxy, R still tries to
use my work proxy.  I have tried the following:

 Sys.setenv(http_proxy=)
 Sys.setenv(no_proxy=TRUE)
 Sys.setenv(no_proxy=1)

 none of which seems to work.  Whenever I try to use read.csv, it
tells me that it cannot find my work proxy, which I am trying to tell R
to ignore.

 I can solve this problem by removing the http_proxy environment
variable binding in the OS when at home, but that is a pain, because
then I have to reset it when I go back into work.

 Is there a way to tell R within a session to ignore the proxy?  If
so, what am I doing wrong?

 thanks,
 matt

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Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

2007-05-30 Thread matt.pettis
Thanks... I'll give it a whirl...

matt 

-Original Message-
From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:22 AM
To: Pettis, Matthew (Thomson)
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

There is also a free program setenv.exe which is more powerful than
setx.exe.
You mentioned that deleting http_proxy from your environment through the
OS would fix your problem.  setenv.exe can both set and delete
environment variables and you can specify user, system, etc.  See
description and link here:
http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=4928


Grothendieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One other point.  If you find you need to set a system or user 
 environment variable then microsoft has a free tool called setx.exe
that you can find here:

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927229

 You can do this from within R using system().

 On 5/30/07, Gabor Grothendieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   OK, I think I get that... do you know which namespace the
Sys.setenv() function affects?  Do you know if there are functions in R
that can alter the user/system/process environment variables?
  
 
  Use the R Sys.getenv() command to get the process environment
variables.
  To get user and system environment variables, from the Desktop right

  click on My Computer and choose Properties.  Then choose the 
  Advanced tab and click on the Environment Variables button near the 
  bottom of the window that appears.
 


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[R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

2007-05-29 Thread matt.pettis
Hi,

I am trying to use R at work and at home on the same computer.  At work, I have 
a proxy, and at home, I do not.  I have, for work, a User environment variable 
http_proxy which I set in the OS (Windows XP Pro).  When I am at work, and I 
try to retrieve data from the web with 'read.csv', things work just fine.  I 
assume it knows how to use the proxy.

The trouble is when I am at home and have no proxy, R still tries to use my 
work proxy.  I have tried the following:

Sys.setenv(http_proxy=)
Sys.setenv(no_proxy=TRUE)
Sys.setenv(no_proxy=1)

none of which seems to work.  Whenever I try to use read.csv, it tells me that 
it cannot find my work proxy, which I am trying to tell R to ignore.

I can solve this problem by removing the http_proxy environment variable 
binding in the OS when at home, but that is a pain, because then I have to 
reset it when I go back into work.

Is there a way to tell R within a session to ignore the proxy?  If so, what am 
I doing wrong?

thanks,
matt

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Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

2007-05-29 Thread matt.pettis
Hi Gabor,

Thanks for the reply and link.

I took a look at the link -- one thing I don't understand is why if I delete 
the 'http_proxy' variable via the cmd shell (or equivalent OS dialog box), why 
I can get R to ignore the proxy, but using Sys.setenv(http_proxy=) won't do 
that for me (at least for the scope of the session).  If there were other 
variables affecting it, I would think my deleting 'http_proxy' in the OS would 
also have no effect -- yet it does.

Any ideas?

Thanks again,
Matt


-Original Message-
From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/29/2007 9:49 PM
To: Pettis, Matthew (Thomson)
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting
 
Note that Windows XP has 4 types of environment variables and I suspect
that the problem stems from not taking that into account:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/guide/sas_wsh_kmmj.mspx?mfr=true

On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to use R at work and at home on the same computer.  At work, I 
 have a proxy, and at home, I do not.  I have, for work, a User environment 
 variable http_proxy which I set in the OS (Windows XP Pro).  When I am at 
 work, and I try to retrieve data from the web with 'read.csv', things work 
 just fine.  I assume it knows how to use the proxy.

 The trouble is when I am at home and have no proxy, R still tries to use my 
 work proxy.  I have tried the following:

 Sys.setenv(http_proxy=)
 Sys.setenv(no_proxy=TRUE)
 Sys.setenv(no_proxy=1)

 none of which seems to work.  Whenever I try to use read.csv, it tells me 
 that it cannot find my work proxy, which I am trying to tell R to ignore.

 I can solve this problem by removing the http_proxy environment variable 
 binding in the OS when at home, but that is a pain, because then I have to 
 reset it when I go back into work.

 Is there a way to tell R within a session to ignore the proxy?  If so, what 
 am I doing wrong?

 thanks,
 matt

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Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

2007-05-29 Thread matt.pettis
OK, I think I get that... do you know which namespace the Sys.setenv() function 
affects?  Do you know if there are functions in R that can alter the 
user/system/process environment variables?

Thanks,
Matt


-Original Message-
From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/29/2007 10:20 PM
To: Pettis, Matthew (Thomson)
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting
 
You can have 4 different http_proxy environment variables and if you
set one type but try to unset a different type then that will have no
effect on the one you originally set.  For example, if you originally
set it as a system or user environment variable and then try to
unset the process environment variable of the same name then
that will have no effect on the system or user environment variable.

On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Gabor,

 Thanks for the reply and link.

 I took a look at the link -- one thing I don't understand is why if I delete 
 the 'http_proxy' variable via the cmd shell (or equivalent OS dialog box), 
 why I can get R to ignore the proxy, but using Sys.setenv(http_proxy=) 
 won't do that for me (at least for the scope of the session).  If there were 
 other variables affecting it, I would think my deleting 'http_proxy' in the 
 OS would also have no effect -- yet it does.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks again,
 Matt


 -Original Message-
 From: Gabor Grothendieck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tue 5/29/2007 9:49 PM
 To: Pettis, Matthew (Thomson)
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] http proxies: setting and unsetting

 Note that Windows XP has 4 types of environment variables and I suspect
 that the problem stems from not taking that into account:

 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/guide/sas_wsh_kmmj.mspx?mfr=true

 On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am trying to use R at work and at home on the same computer.  At work, I 
  have a proxy, and at home, I do not.  I have, for work, a User environment 
  variable http_proxy which I set in the OS (Windows XP Pro).  When I am at 
  work, and I try to retrieve data from the web with 'read.csv', things work 
  just fine.  I assume it knows how to use the proxy.
 
  The trouble is when I am at home and have no proxy, R still tries to use my 
  work proxy.  I have tried the following:
 
  Sys.setenv(http_proxy=)
  Sys.setenv(no_proxy=TRUE)
  Sys.setenv(no_proxy=1)
 
  none of which seems to work.  Whenever I try to use read.csv, it tells me 
  that it cannot find my work proxy, which I am trying to tell R to ignore.
 
  I can solve this problem by removing the http_proxy environment variable 
  binding in the OS when at home, but that is a pain, because then I have to 
  reset it when I go back into work.
 
  Is there a way to tell R within a session to ignore the proxy?  If so, what 
  am I doing wrong?
 
  thanks,
  matt
 
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