Re: [R] Repeated measures by lme and aov give different results

2006-11-16 Thread Spencer Graves
RSiteSearch(lme and aov) returned 350 hits for me just now. I'm sure that many are not relevant to your question, but I believe some are. Beyond this, there is now and R Wiki, accessible via www.r-project.org - Documentation: Wiki (or directly as

Re: [R] Repeated measures by lme and aov give different results

2006-11-16 Thread Jeff Miller
, November 16, 2006 4:14 PM To: Vicki Allison Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] Repeated measures by lme and aov give different results RSiteSearch(lme and aov) returned 350 hits for me just now. I'm sure that many are not relevant to your question, but I believe some

Re: [R] Repeated measures by lme and aov give different results

2006-11-16 Thread Andrew Robinson
Vicki, take a look at P. 47 of the book by Pinheiro and Bates, if you have a copy (if not, get one!) They show the analysis of a split-plot design using lme there. Here, both aov and lme are estimating two levels of variation. The key difference is that with aov the Ring-level variation is not