Re: [R] dispersion_parameter_GLMM's

2007-07-26 Thread Senor_Felix

I agree with David. A dispersion parameter of 25 suggests that you have
mainly 0's in your data set and your model is not adequate. Perhabs you
should dichotomize your data in 0 and 1's and use a logistic mixed model but
be aware of small numbers of events. 


That amount of overdispersion would make the use of a poisson model
very questionable, and will very likely result in estimated standard
errors that are too low, hence the change in statistical significance
when you switch to quasipoisson.

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[R] dispersion_parameter_GLMM's

2007-03-06 Thread Cristina Gomes
Hi all,
I was wondering if somebody could give me advice regarding the 
dispersion parameter in GLMM's. I'm a beginner in R and basically in 
GLMM's. I've ran a GLMM with a poisson family and got really nice 
results that conform with theory, as well with results that I've 
obtained previously with other analysis and that others have obtained in 
similar studies. But the dispersion parameter is too large (25 compared 
to 1). So I ran a quasipoisson that allows for overdispersion and all of 
the significant results fell out. My question is, how much does 
overdispersion invalidate ones results when using a poisson family? What 
could the reason be for having non significant results with a 
quasipoisson distribution?
If anybody could give me some help with this or/and recommend me 
literature that is somewhat comprehensible to lay people (i.e. non 
statisticians) that would be great.
Thanks in advance,
Cristina.

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Re: [R] dispersion_parameter_GLMM's

2007-03-06 Thread David Barron
That amount of overdispersion would make the use of a poisson model
very questionable, and will very likely result in estimated standard
errors that are too low, hence the change in statistical significance
when you switch to quasipoisson.

On 06/03/07, Cristina Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I was wondering if somebody could give me advice regarding the
 dispersion parameter in GLMM's. I'm a beginner in R and basically in
 GLMM's. I've ran a GLMM with a poisson family and got really nice
 results that conform with theory, as well with results that I've
 obtained previously with other analysis and that others have obtained in
 similar studies. But the dispersion parameter is too large (25 compared
 to 1). So I ran a quasipoisson that allows for overdispersion and all of
 the significant results fell out. My question is, how much does
 overdispersion invalidate ones results when using a poisson family? What
 could the reason be for having non significant results with a
 quasipoisson distribution?
 If anybody could give me some help with this or/and recommend me
 literature that is somewhat comprehensible to lay people (i.e. non
 statisticians) that would be great.
 Thanks in advance,
 Cristina.

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