Re: [R] maintaining specified factor contrasts when subsetting in lmer

2007-07-07 Thread Afshartous, David

I'm familiar w/ relevel but that doesn't seem to help here 
(e.g., tried setting the reference level to 3 but the second
model w/ the subset argument doesn't seem to estimate the 
desired model).

Possibly another contrasts statement needs to be provided prior 
to the second model, this time w/ a reduced number of levels, but
that seems to introduce problems w.r.t. the total number of levels
prior to subsetting.   

Is the only way around this to define a new dataframe for the subset
and define the contrasts for that dataframe accordingly?

 

-Original Message-
From: Francisco J. Zagmutt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:40 PM
To: Afshartous, David
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: maintaining specified factor contrasts when subsetting in
lmer

See ?relevel

Regards,

Francisco

Afshartous, David wrote:
 All,
  
 I'm using lmer for some repeated measures data and have specified 
 the contrasts for a time factor such that say time 3 is the base.
This
 works fine.  However, when
 I next use the subset argument to remove the last two time values, the

 output indicates that
 the specified contrast is not maintained (see below).   I can solve
this
 by creating a new dataframe
 for the subset of interest and redefining the constrasts, but I was 
 wondering if there is a direct method that allows me to continue w/ 
 the subset argument?  (perhaps via supplying a contrast argument to 
 lmer directly, but this doesn't seem possible based on the defintion 
 of this argument in model.matrix.default).
  
 Thanks,
 Dave
  
  
 z - rnorm(24, mean=0, sd=1)
 time - factor(paste(Time-, rep(1:6, 4), sep=)) Patient - 
 rep(1:4, each = 6) drug - factor(rep(c(D, P), each = 6, times = 
 2)) ## P = placebo, D = Drug dat.new - data.frame(time, drug, z, 
 Patient)
  
 ### specify the contrast as time 3:
 contrasts(dat.new$time) - contr.treatment(6, base=3) 
 dimnames(contrasts(dat.new$time))[[1]] -
 as.character(levels(dat.new$time))
 dimnames(contrasts(dat.new$time))[[2]] -
 as.character(levels(dat.new$time)[-3])
  
 fm1 - lmer(z ~ drug + time + (1 | Patient), data = dat.new ) Fixed 
 effects:
  Estimate Std. Error  t value
 (Intercept) -0.182774   0.464014 -0.39390
 drugP   -0.281103   0.352309 -0.79789
 timeTime-1   0.150505   0.606462  0.24817
 timeTime-2   0.612016   0.606462  1.00916
 timeTime-4   0.775342   0.606462  1.27847
 timeTime-5   0.093741   0.606462  0.15457
 timeTime-6   0.452442   0.606462  0.74604
  
 ## time 3 is the base as specified
 
 fm2 -  lmer(z ~ drug + time + (1 | Patient), data = dat.new, subset =

 dat.new$time !=Time-6  dat.new$time != Time-5)
 
 Fixed effects:
  Estimate Std. Error  t value
 (Intercept)  0.052975   0.500675  0.10581
 drugP   -0.451593   0.447818 -1.00843
 timeTime-2   0.461511   0.633310  0.72873
 timeTime-3  -0.150505   0.633310 -0.23765
 timeTime-4   0.624837   0.633310  0.98662
  
 ### time 3 no longer the base; was expecting to see the fixed effects 
 for time-1, time-2, and time-4, w/ Intercept ### representing time-3
  
  
 
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[R] maintaining specified factor contrasts when subsetting in lmer

2007-07-06 Thread Afshartous, David
All,
 
I'm using lmer for some repeated measures data and have specified 
the contrasts for a time factor such that say time 3 is the base.   This
works fine.  However, when 
I next use the subset argument to remove the last two time values, the
output indicates that
the specified contrast is not maintained (see below).   I can solve this
by creating a new dataframe
for the subset of interest and redefining the constrasts, but I was
wondering if there is a direct method that
allows me to continue w/ the subset argument?  (perhaps via supplying a
contrast argument to lmer 
directly, but this doesn't seem possible based on the defintion of this
argument in model.matrix.default).
 
Thanks,
Dave
 
 
z - rnorm(24, mean=0, sd=1)
time - factor(paste(Time-, rep(1:6, 4), sep=)) 
Patient - rep(1:4, each = 6) 
drug - factor(rep(c(D, P), each = 6, times = 2)) ## P = placebo, D
= Drug
dat.new - data.frame(time, drug, z, Patient) 
 
### specify the contrast as time 3:
contrasts(dat.new$time) - contr.treatment(6, base=3) 
dimnames(contrasts(dat.new$time))[[1]] -
as.character(levels(dat.new$time))
dimnames(contrasts(dat.new$time))[[2]] -
as.character(levels(dat.new$time)[-3])
 
fm1 - lmer(z ~ drug + time + (1 | Patient), data = dat.new )
Fixed effects:
 Estimate Std. Error  t value
(Intercept) -0.182774   0.464014 -0.39390
drugP   -0.281103   0.352309 -0.79789
timeTime-1   0.150505   0.606462  0.24817
timeTime-2   0.612016   0.606462  1.00916
timeTime-4   0.775342   0.606462  1.27847
timeTime-5   0.093741   0.606462  0.15457
timeTime-6   0.452442   0.606462  0.74604
 
## time 3 is the base as specified

fm2 -  lmer(z ~ drug + time + (1 | Patient), data = dat.new, 
subset = dat.new$time !=Time-6  dat.new$time != Time-5)

Fixed effects:
 Estimate Std. Error  t value
(Intercept)  0.052975   0.500675  0.10581
drugP   -0.451593   0.447818 -1.00843
timeTime-2   0.461511   0.633310  0.72873
timeTime-3  -0.150505   0.633310 -0.23765
timeTime-4   0.624837   0.633310  0.98662
 
### time 3 no longer the base; was expecting to see the fixed effects
for time-1, time-2, and time-4, w/ Intercept 
### representing time-3
 
 

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Re: [R] maintaining specified factor contrasts when subsetting in lmer

2007-07-06 Thread Francisco J. Zagmutt
See ?relevel

Regards,

Francisco

Afshartous, David wrote:
 All,
  
 I'm using lmer for some repeated measures data and have specified 
 the contrasts for a time factor such that say time 3 is the base.   This
 works fine.  However, when 
 I next use the subset argument to remove the last two time values, the
 output indicates that
 the specified contrast is not maintained (see below).   I can solve this
 by creating a new dataframe
 for the subset of interest and redefining the constrasts, but I was
 wondering if there is a direct method that
 allows me to continue w/ the subset argument?  (perhaps via supplying a
 contrast argument to lmer 
 directly, but this doesn't seem possible based on the defintion of this
 argument in model.matrix.default).
  
 Thanks,
 Dave
  
  
 z - rnorm(24, mean=0, sd=1)
 time - factor(paste(Time-, rep(1:6, 4), sep=)) 
 Patient - rep(1:4, each = 6) 
 drug - factor(rep(c(D, P), each = 6, times = 2)) ## P = placebo, D
 = Drug
 dat.new - data.frame(time, drug, z, Patient) 
  
 ### specify the contrast as time 3:
 contrasts(dat.new$time) - contr.treatment(6, base=3) 
 dimnames(contrasts(dat.new$time))[[1]] -
 as.character(levels(dat.new$time))
 dimnames(contrasts(dat.new$time))[[2]] -
 as.character(levels(dat.new$time)[-3])
  
 fm1 - lmer(z ~ drug + time + (1 | Patient), data = dat.new )
 Fixed effects:
  Estimate Std. Error  t value
 (Intercept) -0.182774   0.464014 -0.39390
 drugP   -0.281103   0.352309 -0.79789
 timeTime-1   0.150505   0.606462  0.24817
 timeTime-2   0.612016   0.606462  1.00916
 timeTime-4   0.775342   0.606462  1.27847
 timeTime-5   0.093741   0.606462  0.15457
 timeTime-6   0.452442   0.606462  0.74604
  
 ## time 3 is the base as specified
 
 fm2 -  lmer(z ~ drug + time + (1 | Patient), data = dat.new, 
 subset = dat.new$time !=Time-6  dat.new$time != Time-5)
 
 Fixed effects:
  Estimate Std. Error  t value
 (Intercept)  0.052975   0.500675  0.10581
 drugP   -0.451593   0.447818 -1.00843
 timeTime-2   0.461511   0.633310  0.72873
 timeTime-3  -0.150505   0.633310 -0.23765
 timeTime-4   0.624837   0.633310  0.98662
  
 ### time 3 no longer the base; was expecting to see the fixed effects
 for time-1, time-2, and time-4, w/ Intercept 
 ### representing time-3
  
  
 
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