Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-20 Thread Rainer Krug via R-help
Could we please stop this thread here? Please take any further discussions off-list, or we would need an R-chat list for these kind of discussions (I would subscribe, though). Cheers, Rainer > On 20 Nov 2020, at 11:28, Charles Novaes de Santana > wrote: > > The fact that for the first

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-20 Thread Marc Roos
> Remember that github stopped using the term "master" to describe the main branch of a repository for example. Github is some sort of national language institute, with a board of literary, sociology, psychology professors? Afaik is github owned by Microsoft, and Microsoft is known to be

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-20 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Here’s a daft idea that brings it back to R For packages where there are problematic names, have aliases with acceptable names. Perhaps create a package to hold all those aliases. Then if a user wants their preferred names, load up the aliasing package and change them in bulk. Using a package

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-20 Thread Charles Novaes de Santana
The fact that for the first time we have so many messages in this group is proof that the question asked by Lainey is appropriate and necessary. No language is static, they evolve thanks to discussions like this. Remember that github stopped using the term "master" to describe the main branch of

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-20 Thread Marc Roos
>name since it conveys the wrong indication of its purpose. But the >word 'racist' in itself is not offensive. The act of being racist is >offensive and wrong. Purging the word 'racist' won't help rid the >world of racism. Indeed, if you would go down this road, where does it stop? You

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread David Winsemius
Can you guys take this off the list? I don't think that discussing these concerns is within the bounds of the list mandate. The original questioner has gotten the answer to his question (namely to correspond with the R-Core)  and this section of the thread is clearly not about how to solve

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread David Wright
Is it really the proposal that the word 'Indian' should not be allowed when referring to someone or something from India? Context is important. Innumerable words can offend if used with that intent, but we don't banish them because they have common standard meaning. Words which serve only as

Re: [R] [EXT] Re: Inappropriate color name

2020-11-19 Thread Andrew Robinson
I see a lot of reasoning in this thread that I consider specious at best. What seems clear to me, writing as a cis-gendered grey white male, is that we need to make more room. How do we do this? We do it by listening, reflecting, and responding. If words that we use are hurtful, then we must