Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Steven Ellis 
Hi Edward,

R can indeed initiate electronic communication, e.g. by downloading new
libraries (`install.packages()`). You may be best off using a container.

Steven

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 10:25 AM Edward Woo via R-help 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to download R version 3.6.1 onto my company computer and need
> an email confirming that r does not include any electronic communication
> functionality within the program.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Best,
> Edward Woo
>
>
> Edward Woo
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> Jefferies LLC
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Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Ben Bolker 
  This reminds me a little bit of working in a secure data center (no 
external network connections from any of the workstations) where the 
security policy did not allow shell access, but did allow R (disallowing 
it would have crippled half of the projects using the data center).  I 
didn't go out of my way to tell them about system() ...


  cheers
Ben Bolker

On 12/13/24 11:04, Sergei Ko wrote:

I suspect it might be relevant for RStudio, but definitely not for pure R.
On top of that you can just copy R to a flash drive or any accessible
folder. It will work.
Regards,
Sergiy

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 15:56 Bert Gunter,  wrote:


Thanks, Ivan. Exactly my reaction.

And as a Turing complete language, R allows one to do anything in R --
including writing an email package that does email directly from R:
see package emayili .

Indeed, I think one would find it difficult to find *any* software
that does not interact with the internet in some way these days.

Cheers,
Bert

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 7:35 AM Ivan Krylov via R-help
 wrote:


Dear Edward Woo,

Welcome to R-help!

В Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:24:18 +
Edward Woo via R-help  пишет:


need an email confirming that r does not include any electronic
communication functionality within the program


Could you please provide a definition of electronic communication
functionality? (For example, does download.file() or install.packages()
count as one?)

There may be some documents useful for you at
.

--
Best regards,
Ivan

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Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Sergei Ko 
I suspect it might be relevant for RStudio, but definitely not for pure R.
On top of that you can just copy R to a flash drive or any accessible
folder. It will work.
Regards,
Sergiy

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 15:56 Bert Gunter,  wrote:

> Thanks, Ivan. Exactly my reaction.
>
> And as a Turing complete language, R allows one to do anything in R --
> including writing an email package that does email directly from R:
> see package emayili .
>
> Indeed, I think one would find it difficult to find *any* software
> that does not interact with the internet in some way these days.
>
> Cheers,
> Bert
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 7:35 AM Ivan Krylov via R-help
>  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Edward Woo,
> >
> > Welcome to R-help!
> >
> > В Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:24:18 +
> > Edward Woo via R-help  пишет:
> >
> > > need an email confirming that r does not include any electronic
> > > communication functionality within the program
> >
> > Could you please provide a definition of electronic communication
> > functionality? (For example, does download.file() or install.packages()
> > count as one?)
> >
> > There may be some documents useful for you at
> > .
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Ivan
> >
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Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Marc Schwartz via R-help 
Hi,

In addition to the replies that you have already received, it is reasonable to 
question why you wish to download a version of R that is over 5 years old. 
Version 3.6.1 was released in July of 2019.

If you are concerned about security, which is going to be a scenario specific 
discussion, as Jeff rightly notes below, you might also want to be aware that R 
version 4.4.0 was patched earlier this year for a reported code execution 
vulnerability that is relevant to versions of R back to 1.4.0.

  https://blog.r-project.org/2024/05/10/statement-on-cve-2024-27322/

Thus, using a currently released and supported version of R would be in your 
best interest.

Regards,

Marc Schwarzt

> On Dec 13, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Jeff Newmiller via R-help 
>  wrote:
> 
> R is a programming language. If you program it to communicate, it will. Also, 
> it is designed to work with user-contributed packages of code... the process 
> of downloading the packages is communication, and the downloaded packages may 
> communicate if you invoke them (that is often why they are created).
> 
> You may need a more nuanced view of software restrictions if you have this 
> discussion about using R with your IT people than "has no electronic 
> communication functionality". For example, the code is open-source... if 
> there is untrusted behavior then it can be seen in the source code.
> 
> On December 13, 2024 6:24:18 AM PST, Edward Woo via R-help 
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am trying to download R version 3.6.1 onto my company computer and need an 
>> email confirming that r does not include any electronic communication 
>> functionality within the program.
>> 
>> Thank you very much!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Edward Woo
>> 
>> 
>> Edward Woo
>> Municipals Securities Group
>> Jefferies LLC
>> 520 Madison Avenue, 3rd Floor
>> New York, NY 10022
>> Phone: 212-708-2958
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 

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Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Bert Gunter 
Thanks, Ivan. Exactly my reaction.

And as a Turing complete language, R allows one to do anything in R --
including writing an email package that does email directly from R:
see package emayili .

Indeed, I think one would find it difficult to find *any* software
that does not interact with the internet in some way these days.

Cheers,
Bert

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 7:35 AM Ivan Krylov via R-help
 wrote:
>
> Dear Edward Woo,
>
> Welcome to R-help!
>
> В Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:24:18 +
> Edward Woo via R-help  пишет:
>
> > need an email confirming that r does not include any electronic
> > communication functionality within the program
>
> Could you please provide a definition of electronic communication
> functionality? (For example, does download.file() or install.packages()
> count as one?)
>
> There may be some documents useful for you at
> .
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Ivan
>
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Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Jeff Newmiller via R-help 
R is a programming language. If you program it to communicate, it will. Also, 
it is designed to work with user-contributed packages of code... the process of 
downloading the packages is communication, and the downloaded packages may 
communicate if you invoke them (that is often why they are created).

You may need a more nuanced view of software restrictions if you have this 
discussion about using R with your IT people than "has no electronic 
communication functionality". For example, the code is open-source... if there 
is untrusted behavior then it can be seen in the source code.

On December 13, 2024 6:24:18 AM PST, Edward Woo via R-help 
 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to download R version 3.6.1 onto my company computer and need an 
>email confirming that r does not include any electronic communication 
>functionality within the program.
>
>Thank you very much!
>
>Best,
>Edward Woo
>
>
>Edward Woo
>Municipals Securities Group
>Jefferies LLC
>520 Madison Avenue, 3rd Floor
>New York, NY 10022
>Phone: 212-708-2958
>[email protected]
>
>
>Jefferies archives and monitors outgoing and incoming e-mail. The contents of 
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>of the email address to which it was addressed. If you are not the addressee 
>of this email you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any 
>part of it in any form whatsoever. This email may be produced at the request 
>of regulators or in connection with civil litigation. Jefferies accepts no 
>liability for any errors or omissions arising as a result of transmission. Use 
>by other than intended recipients is prohibited.
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Re: [R] Confirmation of no Electronic Communication functionality

2024-12-13 Thread Ivan Krylov via R-help 
Dear Edward Woo,

Welcome to R-help!

В Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:24:18 +
Edward Woo via R-help  пишет:

> need an email confirming that r does not include any electronic
> communication functionality within the program

Could you please provide a definition of electronic communication
functionality? (For example, does download.file() or install.packages()
count as one?)

There may be some documents useful for you at
.

-- 
Best regards,
Ivan

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