Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-18 Thread Tal Galili
Hello all, After many e-mails and comments, I made corrections to my post on the topic of R and funding. I hope this does a better service to the R community: http://www.r-statistics.com/2010/09/open-source-and-money-%E2%80%93-why-paying-r-developers-might-not-always-help-the-project/ Sorry for

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-17 Thread Peter Dalgaard
On 09/17/2010 12:14 AM, Jeremy Miles wrote: I know from organizing a conference in Germany that the only really good way was and is ordinary money transfer via BIC and IBAN numbers. Unfortunately, this system is pretty unknown in the US. Europeans can easily use money transfer to the R

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-17 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/09/10 08:38, Peter Dalgaard wrote: On 09/17/2010 12:14 AM, Jeremy Miles wrote: I know from organizing a conference in Germany that the only really good way was and is ordinary money transfer via BIC and IBAN numbers. Unfortunately, this

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-17 Thread Marianne Promberger
Hi, I would GLADLY donate 30-50$ each year just to see R develop, but there needs to be a way for me to do it in a civilized manner. If the userbase of R is over 2 million there will surely be 100,000 users who, like myself, will happily fork out 40$ a year - would that help? you can do

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread stephen sefick
I am a poor student, and would gladly donate 20ish bucks if it would help. R continues to make me more productive. Thanks for all of the good work! On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:49 AM, jaropis jaro...@zg.home.pl wrote: A few days ago Tal Galili posted a message about some controversies concerning

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 16/09/2010 6:49 AM, jaropis wrote: A few days ago Tal Galili posted a message about some controversies concerning the future of R. Having read the discussions, especially those following Ross Ihaka's post, I have come to the conclusion, that, as usual, the problem is money. I doubt there

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Christopher W. Ryan
I mailed a check for an R Foundation membership almost a year ago, along with the form. In US dollars, corrected by the then-current Euro exchange rate. It has never been cashed. Christopher W. Ryan, MD SUNY Upstate Medical University Clinical Campus at Binghamton 425 Robinson Street,

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Uwe Ligges
I cannot speak for the R Foundation, but you know, getting a US check into money is roughly 20$ fees (at least in Germany, don't know the typical Austrian conditions). I know from organizing a conference in Germany that the only really good way was and is ordinary money transfer via BIC and

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Joshua Wiley
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:49 AM, jaropis jaro...@zg.home.pl wrote: A few days ago Tal Galili posted a message about some controversies concerning the future of R. Having read the discussions, especially those following Ross Ihaka's post, I have come to the conclusion, that, as usual, the

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Kevin Wright
I am sure there would be enough to employ some foundation members full-time, pay external CSs and even protect the system in court from those who make money off of somebody else's work and do not give back to the community (you know who I am talking about). If you are trying to smear

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 16/09/2010 3:29 PM, Kevin Wright wrote: I am sure there would be enough to employ some foundation members full-time, pay external CSs and even protect the system in court from those who make money off of somebody else's work and do not give back to the community (you know who I am

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread David Smith
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote:  On 16/09/2010 3:29 PM, Kevin Wright wrote: Revolution has given back in a number of ways: supporting the useR conference, assisting R core with getting R to build on 64-bit Windows systems, bug fixes, releasing

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Tal Galili
Hello dear Jaroslaw, I strongly agree with you that the R foundation should have an easier method of enabling people to give donations. At the same time, I feel there is a (friendly) disagreement between us on how such money should be used. Your massage has inspired me to write a post on the

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Jeremy Miles
I know from organizing a conference in Germany that the only really good way was and is ordinary money transfer via BIC and IBAN numbers. Unfortunately, this system is pretty unknown in the US. Europeans can easily use money transfer to the R foundation. Paypal? Many open source projects

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Ravi Varadhan
Subject: Re: [R] R Founding Hello dear Jaroslaw, I strongly agree with you that the R foundation should have an easier method of enabling people to give donations. At the same time, I feel there is a (friendly) disagreement between us on how such money should be used. Your massage has inspired me

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Matt Shotwell
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 17:30 -0400, Tal Galili wrote: Hello dear Jaroslaw, I strongly agree with you that the R foundation should have an easier method of enabling people to give donations. At the same time, I feel there is a (friendly) disagreement between us on how such money should be used.

Re: [R] R Founding

2010-09-16 Thread Juliet Hannah
Hi Group, I have a possibly naive question, but it seems like it fits into this discussion. I have observed that when researchers publish findings that are deemed to be high-impact, generous funding often follows. R is used everywhere, and, of course, for many of these projects. So my naive