Re: [R] Incomplete output with `sn' library package

2007-08-31 Thread Uwe Ligges
The derived information matrix is not of full rank for your data.
See the code of the functions, which is not that hard to read.

Uwe Ligges





MANASI VYDYANATH wrote:
 You have my sincere apologies for the incompleteness of my message.   
 I have given the details below, including my dataset and my code.
 
 I'm using R, version 2.5.0. My OS is a Mac, (version Tiger).
 
 The sn package is Version 0.4-1
 
 My code was as follows:
 
   mydata - read.table(url(http://www.statsci.org/data/oz/ 
 ais.txt), header = T)
   attach(mydata)
   a - msn.fit(X = cbind(1,Ht,Wt), y = BMI, control = list(x.tol=1e-6))
   b - msn.mle(X=cbind(1,Ht,Wt), y=SSF)
   a
   b
 
 My problem is that neither the a nor the b output gives me any  
 standard errors - those should appear under $se. In both the  
 regressions, this field is left blank with NA under it. I would  
 appreciate some help on this matter - are the standard errors not  
 supposed to appear here, or is there something else I should put into  
 the inputs?
 
 Thank you once again for your time,
 
 Manasi
 
 
 
 On Aug 30, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Uwe Ligges wrote:
 

 MANASI VYDYANATH wrote:
 Dear R users:
 I have a question regarding the output for two of the functions  
 in  the `sn' package, which deals with the mle fitting of skew  
 normal  curves to linear regressions. I'm using the examples and  
 the dataset  given as an example in the online documentation for  
 this package, for  the functions `msn.fit' and `msn.mle'. I'm  
 following the example code  in the documentation for these two  
 functions exactly.
 Part of the data output is supposed to be se, which gives the   
 standard errors of the estimated coefficients. This particular  
 value  comes out as being NA in the examples given, but there  
 are three  coefficients in each case and no numerical problems  
 about why the  standard errors cannot be calculated.
 Am I setting this program up right? Is there some other command I   
 should use (or an option I need to use) to get the output to  
 display  standard errors of the coefficients?
 We cannot know if you use it right, since you have not given any  
 details on

 OS, R version, sn version, and particularly a reproducible example.

 As each R-help message tells in the footer:

 PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- 
 guide.html
 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

 Uwe Ligges







 Thank you for your time in reading this question -
 Cordially,
 Manasi
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Re: [R] Incomplete output with `sn' library package

2007-08-30 Thread Uwe Ligges


MANASI VYDYANATH wrote:
 Dear R users:
 I have a question regarding the output for two of the functions in  
 the `sn' package, which deals with the mle fitting of skew normal  
 curves to linear regressions. I'm using the examples and the dataset  
 given as an example in the online documentation for this package, for  
 the functions `msn.fit' and `msn.mle'. I'm following the example code  
 in the documentation for these two functions exactly.
 Part of the data output is supposed to be se, which gives the  
 standard errors of the estimated coefficients. This particular value  
 comes out as being NA in the examples given, but there are three  
 coefficients in each case and no numerical problems about why the  
 standard errors cannot be calculated.
 Am I setting this program up right? Is there some other command I  
 should use (or an option I need to use) to get the output to display  
 standard errors of the coefficients?

We cannot know if you use it right, since you have not given any details on

OS, R version, sn version, and particularly a reproducible example.

As each R-help message tells in the footer:

PLEASE do read the posting guide 
http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

Uwe Ligges







 Thank you for your time in reading this question -
 Cordially,
 Manasi
 
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Re: [R] Incomplete output with `sn' library package

2007-08-30 Thread MANASI VYDYANATH
You have my sincere apologies for the incompleteness of my message.   
I have given the details below, including my dataset and my code.

I'm using R, version 2.5.0. My OS is a Mac, (version Tiger).

The sn package is Version 0.4-1

My code was as follows:

  mydata - read.table(url(http://www.statsci.org/data/oz/ 
ais.txt), header = T)
  attach(mydata)
  a - msn.fit(X = cbind(1,Ht,Wt), y = BMI, control = list(x.tol=1e-6))
  b - msn.mle(X=cbind(1,Ht,Wt), y=SSF)
  a
  b

My problem is that neither the a nor the b output gives me any  
standard errors - those should appear under $se. In both the  
regressions, this field is left blank with NA under it. I would  
appreciate some help on this matter - are the standard errors not  
supposed to appear here, or is there something else I should put into  
the inputs?

Thank you once again for your time,

Manasi



On Aug 30, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Uwe Ligges wrote:



 MANASI VYDYANATH wrote:
 Dear R users:
 I have a question regarding the output for two of the functions  
 in  the `sn' package, which deals with the mle fitting of skew  
 normal  curves to linear regressions. I'm using the examples and  
 the dataset  given as an example in the online documentation for  
 this package, for  the functions `msn.fit' and `msn.mle'. I'm  
 following the example code  in the documentation for these two  
 functions exactly.
 Part of the data output is supposed to be se, which gives the   
 standard errors of the estimated coefficients. This particular  
 value  comes out as being NA in the examples given, but there  
 are three  coefficients in each case and no numerical problems  
 about why the  standard errors cannot be calculated.
 Am I setting this program up right? Is there some other command I   
 should use (or an option I need to use) to get the output to  
 display  standard errors of the coefficients?

 We cannot know if you use it right, since you have not given any  
 details on

 OS, R version, sn version, and particularly a reproducible example.

 As each R-help message tells in the footer:

 PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- 
 guide.html
 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

 Uwe Ligges







 Thank you for your time in reading this question -
 Cordially,
 Manasi
 __
 R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list
 https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
 PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- 
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 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

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and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.