Re: [R] The R Book by M. J. Crawley

2007-07-05 Thread Mike Prager
Pietrzykowski, Matthew (GE, Research)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all-
 
 I would appreciate any guidance that can be provided.  
I am new to R and am using it exclusively in a statistics 
 program I am undertaking that mainly references
 Minitab.  My focus is on data modeling and further 
 more multivariate data analysis [...]
 I I am looking for a reference that has sound statistical
 foundations with relevant R commands as well as 
 multivariate support.  I saw the new book,
 The R Book, by Michael J. Crawley and wanted to 
 know what R users thoughts of it.

I can't comment on The R Book, as I haven't seen it. This is to
point out some other references for your consideration.  In
order of most technical to most relaxed:

The standard reference for many R users is Modern Applied
Statistics with S by Venables and Ripley, two important
contributors to R.  This has a language introduction and a great
variety of statistical material in its 500 pages. Though I
haven't read every word, I would not for a nanosecond doubt its
sound statistical foundations.  It seems to me that every R
user would benefit from having MASS (as it's called) on his
shelf.

More relaxed in presentation but still with some multivariate
coverage is Data Analysis and Graphics using R, by Maindonald
and Braun, also names quite familiar to most R users. This is
more typical of a introductory statistics textbook, and shorter
(about 350 p.).

Even more relaxed but with less breadth of statistical topics is
Introductory Statistics with R by Dalgaard, yet another
familiar contributor to R.  This is an excellent introductory
book.  After I had been using R for 5 years, I bought a copy and
learned several good things immediately. About 270 p.

You may want to examine those (along with Crawley's) before
settling on the what you want to buy.

I hope that helps.

Mike

-- 
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* Opinions expressed are personal and not represented otherwise.
* Any use of tradenames does not constitute a NOAA endorsement.

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Re: [R] The R Book by M. J. Crawley

2007-07-05 Thread Edna Bell
Have you seen The Basics of S Plus, by Krause and Olson?  It's really good too
.
On 7/5/07, Mike Prager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pietrzykowski, Matthew (GE, Research)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello all-
 
  I would appreciate any guidance that can be provided.
 I am new to R and am using it exclusively in a statistics
  program I am undertaking that mainly references
  Minitab.  My focus is on data modeling and further
  more multivariate data analysis [...]
  I I am looking for a reference that has sound statistical
  foundations with relevant R commands as well as
  multivariate support.  I saw the new book,
  The R Book, by Michael J. Crawley and wanted to
  know what R users thoughts of it.

 I can't comment on The R Book, as I haven't seen it. This is to
 point out some other references for your consideration.  In
 order of most technical to most relaxed:

 The standard reference for many R users is Modern Applied
 Statistics with S by Venables and Ripley, two important
 contributors to R.  This has a language introduction and a great
 variety of statistical material in its 500 pages. Though I
 haven't read every word, I would not for a nanosecond doubt its
 sound statistical foundations.  It seems to me that every R
 user would benefit from having MASS (as it's called) on his
 shelf.

 More relaxed in presentation but still with some multivariate
 coverage is Data Analysis and Graphics using R, by Maindonald
 and Braun, also names quite familiar to most R users. This is
 more typical of a introductory statistics textbook, and shorter
 (about 350 p.).

 Even more relaxed but with less breadth of statistical topics is
 Introductory Statistics with R by Dalgaard, yet another
 familiar contributor to R.  This is an excellent introductory
 book.  After I had been using R for 5 years, I bought a copy and
 learned several good things immediately. About 270 p.

 You may want to examine those (along with Crawley's) before
 settling on the what you want to buy.

 I hope that helps.

 Mike

 --
 Mike Prager, NOAA, Beaufort, NC
 * Opinions expressed are personal and not represented otherwise.
 * Any use of tradenames does not constitute a NOAA endorsement.

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Re: [R] The R Book by M. J. Crawley

2007-07-04 Thread Berwin A Turlach
G'day Uwe,

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:33:05 +0200
Uwe Ligges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pietrzykowski, Matthew (GE, Research) wrote:
   I saw the new book,
  The R Book, by Michael J. Crawley and wanted to know what R users
  thoughts of it.
 
 The author seems to be an expert in (almost?) all available
 statistical programming languages 

I would have thought that honour would go to Brian S. Everitt. :-)

M.J. Crawley only seems to write books using S-PLus and R.  His book on
Statistical Computing (using S-Plus) is about 750 pages and his book
Statistics: An introduction using R is about 320 pages.  

I do not know and have not seen The R Book yet, so I cannot comment
on it.  The statistical material presented in the other two books is
pretty sound and well explained.  M.J. Crawley definitely has some
strong opinions on how certain data should be analysed and how
statistics should be used. The S-Plus code or R code he uses can, on
occasions, be somewhat improved.

Cheers,

Berwin

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Re: [R] The R Book by M. J. Crawley

2007-07-03 Thread Uwe Ligges


Pietrzykowski, Matthew (GE, Research) wrote:
 Hello all-
 
 I would appreciate any guidance that can be provided.  I am new to R and
 am 
 using it exclusively in a statistics program I am undertaking that
 mainly references
 Minitab.  My focus is on data modeling and further more multivariate
 data analysis
 as much of my work in involves chemical measurements from custom sensors
 using
 all sorts of transduction methods.   I am looking for a reference that
 has sound statistical
 foundations with relevant R commands as well as multivariate support.  I
 saw the new book,
 The R Book, by Michael J. Crawley and wanted to know what R users
 thoughts of it.

The author seems to be an expert in (almost?) all available statistical 
programming languages and able to write almost 1000 pages about these 
languages. He also seems to be a perfect R programmer, since the title 
is The R book.

Uwe Ligges


 Thanks in advance,
 
 Matt
 
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