Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-15 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
I started using LyX; it is very straightforward. Then, I started exporting to 
LaTeX and playing around with the LaTeX file (I found it faster than using 
LyX, and could take my file anywhere they had something that could manipulate 
text ---emacs, vim, nedit, whatever).

Googling you'll find _many_ LaTeX tutorials. Which one is best probably 
depends a lot on your preferences and learning style. 

As for books, I find Guide to LaTeX by Kopka  Daly (I think now in its 
fourth edition) far easier to use (to learn and for reference) than the 
series of LaTeX books by Goossens et al. and Lamport. (And I only need to 
haul around a single book, not 2 to 5). But then, again, this is surely a 
matter of personal taste.

HTH,

R.


On Thursday 09 February 2006 20:08, Patrick Burns wrote:
 One approach is to use LyX (http://www.lyx.org/).
 This is a lot like using Word or other word processors
 but it creates LaTeX.  You probably won't need to
 know anything about TeX for a long time unless you
 are doing really weird things.

 Patrick Burns
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 roger bos wrote:
 Yeah, but I don't understand LaTeX at all.  Can you point me to a good
 beginners guide?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Roger
 
 On 2/9/06, Barry Rowlingson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:
 I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
 
 irritated
 
 at myself for not having done that before.
 
 However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
 way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
 like MS Word.
 
 Well whatever you do, don't start looking at LaTeX, because that will
 get you even more irritated at yourself for not having done it before.
 
 LaTeX is to Word as R is to what? SPSS?
 
 I've still not seen a pretty piece of mathematics - or even text - in
 Word.
 
 Barry
 
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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-10 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
At 11:42 10.02.2006 -0300, CENDOYA, Maria Gabriela wrote:
X-UIDL: PE5!!DnS!!np3!Sl2!

Hi Tom:

   May be I didn't understand your question but, what I do to cut
and paste results from say summary.lm, in a word processors without losing
the nice shape of the R Console, is to choose the same type of letter in
both,

That works -- to some extent.  But, that means that the formatting of the 
table is completely dependent on the number of spaces between the 
elements.  It is essentially the same kind of formatting of tables I did on 
my first typewriter about 40 years ago.  Any nontrivial change is 
troublesome, and you have to stick to fixed size fonts like 
Courier.  Modern editors have moved far beyond that point.

This is about generating a table in a text document from R type 
output.  This type of table increases flexibility in respect to formatting.

   I mean, in my R Gui preferences I use Courier New size 10,
then if I choose that type of letter in my word processors, I see the same
in both windows.

Yes.

Tom

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Doran, Harold
Well, I don't know if it can be used with Word or not, but you might
consider Sweave for use with LaTeX. Maybe if you use the sink() command
this might work, but I haven't tried it. 

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Subject: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
irritated at myself for not having done that before.

However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice
output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word
processor, all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is
not optimal for the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).

Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would
solve the problem.

Tom

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
In Word use a fixed font such as Courier rather than a proportional
font and it will look ok.

On 2/9/06, Tom Backer Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more irritated
 at myself for not having done that before.

 However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
 way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
 like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice
 output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word processor,
 all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is not optimal for
 the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).

 Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would solve
 the problem.

 Tom

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Romain Francois
Le 09.02.2006 15:41, Tom Backer Johnsen a écrit :

I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more irritated 
at myself for not having done that before.

However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some 
way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something 
like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice 
output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word processor, 
all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is not optimal for 
the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).

Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would solve 
the problem.

Tom
  

Hi ,

One way could be to output in html format from R (with the R2HTML 
package) and then read back the html from your word processor

Romain

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Sebastian Luque
Tom Backer Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

 However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
 way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something 
 like MS Word.

In case you're not talking about table-like output exclusively, reading
?Devices describes all the available kinds of graphical output.  Most of
these can then easily be included in MS Word.

Cheers,

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Rau, Roland
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romain Francois
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:54 PM
 To: Tom Backer Johnsen
 
 One way could be to output in html format from R (with the R2HTML 
 package) and then read back the html from your word processor
 
 Romain

If you go along the HTML path, the package xtable might be also your
friend:

library(xtable)
mymat - matrix(1:9, ncol=3)
print.xtable(xtable(mymat), type=HTML)


Hope this is useful for you,
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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
I agree that this is the best way. 

I often use Courier font with font size 10 that gives very good results.


On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 09:47 -0500, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
 In Word use a fixed font such as Courier rather than a proportional
 font and it will look ok.
 
 On 2/9/06, Tom Backer Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more irritated
  at myself for not having done that before.
 
  However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
  way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
  like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice
  output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word processor,
  all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is not optimal for
  the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).
 
  Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would solve
  the problem.
 
  Tom
 
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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Philippe Grosjean
I have added several convenient methods for sending data directly from R 
to Microsoft Word (report() function) in the svViews package (SciViews 
bundle). However, I still have to upload it to CRAN. I do it right now. 
It should be available in a couple of days.
Best,

Philippe Grosjean

Romain Francois wrote:
 Le 09.02.2006 15:41, Tom Backer Johnsen a écrit :
 
 
I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more irritated 
at myself for not having done that before.

However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some 
way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something 
like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice 
output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word processor, 
all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is not optimal for 
the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).

Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would solve 
the problem.

Tom
 

 
 Hi ,
 
 One way could be to output in html format from R (with the R2HTML 
 package) and then read back the html from your word processor
 
 Romain


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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:
 I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more irritated 
 at myself for not having done that before.
 
 However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some 
 way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something 
 like MS Word.  

  Well whatever you do, don't start looking at LaTeX, because that will 
get you even more irritated at yourself for not having done it before.

  LaTeX is to Word as R is to what? SPSS?

  I've still not seen a pretty piece of mathematics - or even text - in 
Word.

Barry

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Marc Schwartz (via MN)
In follow up to Harold's thought of using LaTeX, I have an approach when
the use of nicely formatted tables is required in a document where LaTeX
is not being used for the entire document. In other words, where you
need to use Word, OO.org's Writer or similar application for the
majority of the document body.

This involves outputting R results to LaTeX table code in a text file,
processing the file with 'latex' and 'dvips' and creating an EPS file.
Of course, the LaTeX text file is fully complete with preamble, etc.

One can then import the EPS file to a page in the document processor
file. The most recent versions of the aforementioned applications will
generate a bitmapped preview of the table content to aid in placement
and review.

You can then print the document to a PS printer or file for subsequent
use. OO.org's Writer can also use Ghostscript to print to a PDF file
using a PDF Converter in the printer selection dialog. This,
importantly, is different than the Export to PDF function. The latter
does not properly print embedded EPS images and prints the bitmapped
preview instead.

The advantage of this approach is that you don't have to mess around in
the word processing program doing a 'text to table' conversion and then
go through the formatting of the resultant columns, borders, etc.

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 09:47 -0500, Doran, Harold wrote:
 Well, I don't know if it can be used with Word or not, but you might
 consider Sweave for use with LaTeX. Maybe if you use the sink() command
 this might work, but I haven't tried it. 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Johnsen
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:41 AM
 To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors
 
 I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
 irritated at myself for not having done that before.
 
 However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
 way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
 like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice
 output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word
 processor, all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is
 not optimal for the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).
 
 Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would
 solve the problem.
 
 Tom

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread roger bos
Yeah, but I don't understand LaTeX at all.  Can you point me to a good
beginners guide?

Thanks,

Roger


On 2/9/06, Barry Rowlingson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:
  I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
 irritated
  at myself for not having done that before.
 
  However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
  way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
  like MS Word.

 Well whatever you do, don't start looking at LaTeX, because that will
 get you even more irritated at yourself for not having done it before.

 LaTeX is to Word as R is to what? SPSS?

 I've still not seen a pretty piece of mathematics - or even text - in
 Word.

 Barry

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Francisco J. Zagmutt
Take a look at the facilities to write HTML output in library(R2HTML).  If 
you write an HTML file, you can then easily copy and paste it into your Word 
document, or from MS Word you can use the Insert menu. i.e.

library(R2HTML)
x=ftable(Titanic, row.vars = 1:3)
HTML(x,Titanic.html)

Then from MS Word use Insert- File and select Titanic.html and see the 
results.

I hope this helps

Francisco



From: Tom Backer Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:41:09 +0100

I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more irritated
at myself for not having done that before.

However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice
output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word processor,
all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is not optimal for
the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).

Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would solve
the problem.

Tom

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Marc Schwartz (via MN) wrote:
 In follow up to Harold's thought of using LaTeX, I have an approach when
 the use of nicely formatted tables is required in a document where LaTeX
 is not being used for the entire document. In other words, where you
 need to use Word, OO.org's Writer or similar application for the
 majority of the document body.
 
 This involves outputting R results to LaTeX table code in a text file,
 processing the file with 'latex' and 'dvips' and creating an EPS file.
 Of course, the LaTeX text file is fully complete with preamble, etc.
 
 One can then import the EPS file to a page in the document processor
 file. The most recent versions of the aforementioned applications will
 generate a bitmapped preview of the table content to aid in placement
 and review.
 
 You can then print the document to a PS printer or file for subsequent
 use. OO.org's Writer can also use Ghostscript to print to a PDF file
 using a PDF Converter in the printer selection dialog. This,
 importantly, is different than the Export to PDF function. The latter
 does not properly print embedded EPS images and prints the bitmapped
 preview instead.
 
 The advantage of this approach is that you don't have to mess around in
 the word processing program doing a 'text to table' conversion and then
 go through the formatting of the resultant columns, borders, etc.
 
 HTH,
 
 Marc Schwartz

In addition to Marc's nice idea, I have had luck with Linux programs 
latex2rtf (.tex to .rtf) and hevea (.tex to .html).  Most often I use 
hevea and let Word users quickly convert from .html to .doc.  Of course 
doing everything in LaTeX is far better, using either Sweave or 
http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/StatReport .  Personal productivity 
with LaTeX is amazingly greater than with Word.

Frank

 
 On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 09:47 -0500, Doran, Harold wrote:
 
Well, I don't know if it can be used with Word or not, but you might
consider Sweave for use with LaTeX. Maybe if you use the sink() command
this might work, but I haven't tried it. 

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Johnsen
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:41 AM
To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
irritated at myself for not having done that before.

However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
like MS Word.  An example:  If you use summary(lm()) you get nice
output.  However, if you try to paste that output into the word
processor, all the text elements are separated by blanks, and that is
not optimal for the creation of a table (in the word processing sense).

Is there an option to generate tab-separated output in R ? That would
solve the problem.

Tom
 
 
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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Marc Schwartz (via MN)
There is some documentation online at:

http://www.latex-project.org/guides/

which would be a good starting place.

If you prefer a good book, The LaTeX Companion (aka TLC) is the place to
begin:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201362996


There is also a boxed set (expensive) of several books (including TLC)
available:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321269446


Finally, for dealing with EPS (or PDF) graphics (ie. R plots), the
online document Using Imported Graphics in LaTeX and pdfLaTeX is
excellent:

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/epslatex.pdf


HTH,

Marc Schwartz

On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 12:33 -0500, roger bos wrote:
 Yeah, but I don't understand LaTeX at all.  Can you point me to a good
 beginners guide?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Roger
 
 
 On 2/9/06, Barry Rowlingson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:
   I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
  irritated
   at myself for not having done that before.
  
   However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
   way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
   like MS Word.
 
  Well whatever you do, don't start looking at LaTeX, because that will
  get you even more irritated at yourself for not having done it before.
 
  LaTeX is to Word as R is to what? SPSS?
 
  I've still not seen a pretty piece of mathematics - or even text - in
  Word.
 
  Barry
 

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Patrick Burns
One approach is to use LyX (http://www.lyx.org/).
This is a lot like using Word or other word processors
but it creates LaTeX.  You probably won't need to
know anything about TeX for a long time unless you
are doing really weird things.

Patrick Burns
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roger bos wrote:

Yeah, but I don't understand LaTeX at all.  Can you point me to a good
beginners guide?

Thanks,

Roger


On 2/9/06, Barry Rowlingson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:


I have just started looking at R, and are getting more and more
  

irritated


at myself for not having done that before.

However, one of the things I have not found in the documentation is some
way of preparing output from R for convenient formatting into something
like MS Word.
  

Well whatever you do, don't start looking at LaTeX, because that will
get you even more irritated at yourself for not having done it before.

LaTeX is to Word as R is to what? SPSS?

I've still not seen a pretty piece of mathematics - or even text - in
Word.

Barry

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Peter Flom
 roger bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/9/2006 12:33 pm  wrote

Yeah, but I don't understand LaTeX at all.  Can you point me to a good
beginners guide?


I like Math into LaTeX, by Gratzer.  
For a real beginners guide, there's one called first steps in LaTeX.
You might also want to look at issues of the PracTEX journal, many of which are 
for beginners (It's an online journal)

Peter

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Peter Flom
 Marc Schwartz (via MN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/9/2006 

If you prefer a good book, The LaTeX Companion (aka TLC) is the place
to begin:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201362996 

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I respectfully disagree.  TLC is a great book.  Absolutely.  But I
think it is overwhelming for a beginner.  

Peter

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Re: [R] Tranferring R results to word prosessors

2006-02-09 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
As much as I love LaTeX, I would be cautious on recommending it for
someone with a short term objective or does not really need to write
equations etc. 

Part of the reason is the initial step of getting the different
softwares required to make LaTeX work properly can be difficult.
However, I think this webpage does a good job of explaining it
http://www.math.aau.dk/~dethlef/Tips/introduction.html

WinEdt (http://www.winedt.com/) might also be worth checking out.

Regards, Adai


On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:11 -0500, Peter Flom wrote:
  roger bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/9/2006 12:33 pm  wrote
 
 Yeah, but I don't understand LaTeX at all.  Can you point me to a good
 beginners guide?
 
 
 I like Math into LaTeX, by Gratzer.  
 For a real beginners guide, there's one called first steps in LaTeX.
 You might also want to look at issues of the PracTEX journal, many of which 
 are for beginners (It's an online journal)
 
 Peter
 
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 Center for Drug Use and HIV Research
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