Re: [R] paired t-test. Need to rearrange data?

2006-08-07 Thread Petr Pikal
Hi

one possibility is

t(unstack(test.data, y~id))

HTH
Petr

On 6 Aug 2006 at 16:13, Henrik Parn wrote:

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 Dear all,
 
 I have received some data arranged like this:
 
 # original data
 id - rep(letters[1:6], each=2)
 time - as.factor(rep(1:2, 6))
 y - as.vector(replicate(6, c(rnorm(n=1, mean=1), rnorm(n=1,
 mean=2 test.data - data.frame(id, time, y) test.data
 
 I would like to perform a paired t-test of the y-values at time=1
 against those at time=2, with samples paired by their id. Is it
 necessary to arrange the data in a format like this:   
 
 # rearranged data
 id - letters[1:6]
 y1 - replicate(6, rnorm(n=1, mean=1)) # y-value at time = 1
 y2 - replicate(6, rnorm(n=1, mean=2)) #  y-value at time = 2
 test.data2 - data.frame(id, y1, y2)
 test.data2
 
 ...in order to perform a paired t-test?
 t.test(y1, y2, paired=T)
 
 If yes, which is the most convenient way to rearrange the data?
 Or is it possible to apply the paired t-test function to the original
 data set?
 
 And a side question: In my examples, I suppose can I use set.seed to
 reproduce the 'rnorm-values' created in the 'original data' also in my
 the 'rearranged data'. Can someone give me a hint of how to apply the
 same 'seed' to all the rnorms?
 
 
 Thanks a lot in advance!
 
 
 Henrik
 
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Re: [R] paired t-test. Need to rearrange data?

2006-08-06 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Henrik Parn wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I have received some data arranged like this:
 
 # original data
 id - rep(letters[1:6], each=2)
 time - as.factor(rep(1:2, 6))
 y - as.vector(replicate(6, c(rnorm(n=1, mean=1), rnorm(n=1, mean=2
 test.data - data.frame(id, time, y)
 test.data
 
 I would like to perform a paired t-test of the y-values at time=1 
 against those at time=2, with samples paired by their id. Is it 
 necessary to arrange the data in a format like this:   
 
 # rearranged data
 id - letters[1:6]
 y1 - replicate(6, rnorm(n=1, mean=1)) # y-value at time = 1

Really, rnorm(6, 1) suffices here.

 y2 - replicate(6, rnorm(n=1, mean=2)) #  y-value at time = 2
 test.data2 - data.frame(id, y1, y2)
 test.data2
 
 ...in order to perform a paired t-test?
 t.test(y1, y2, paired=T)
 
 If yes, which is the most convenient way to rearrange the data?
 Or is it possible to apply the paired t-test function to the original 
 data set?

t.test(y ~ time, test.data, paired=TRUE)

 And a side question: In my examples, I suppose can I use set.seed to 
 reproduce the 'rnorm-values' created in the 'original data' also in my 
 the 'rearranged data'. Can someone give me a hint of how to apply the 
 same 'seed' to all the rnorms?

Using the same seed will give identical values from rnorm, surely not what 
you want.  You need to generate the rnorms in the same order, that is all.
matrix(rnorm(12) + c(1,2), 6, 2, byrow=TRUE) will do the trick.


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