Re: [R-pkg-devel] Change package maintainer

2021-07-02 Thread Uwe Ligges




On 02.07.2021 14:45, Spencer Graves wrote:
   I can suggest one example: multcompView:  I created it during or 
before 2006 and passed it during or before 2011 to Luciano Selzer 
.  I do not remember the exact process, and 
procedures could have changed since then.  However, I think I remember 
communicating with the CRAN maintainers after Selzer and I agreed he 
would take it over.  Beyond that, I see that the DESCRIPTION file for 
multicompView0.1-3 lists BOTH of us as Maintainer.  The version before 
that lists me only, and the one after lists him.[1]


Although, the CRAN policies require a single maintainer these days.

Best,
Uwe




   Second, last September, Brian Ripley sent an email to 50 
different people saying gdata had problems, the maintainer had not 
responded, and it was scheduled to be archived along with all its strong 
reverse dependencies on 2020-09-25.  I don't know what happened from 
that except that the package is still on CRAN with date Published: 
2017-06-06, but my Ecfun package no longer uses it.



   Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that anyone can adopt a package in 
the archives that is no longer on CRAN and resurrect it if you agree to 
fix the problems.  However, you should discuss with the CRAN maintainers.



   Spencer


[1]
https://cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/Archive/multcompView/


On 7/2/21 5:30 AM, Lluís Revilla wrote:

Hi,

I agree that the email handshake is the best approach (and very
reasonable to expect it).
I thought that maybe in cases like this there was a waiting period
and/or multiple attempts to contact the maintainer and someone on the
mailing list might have had some experience with the process.
When I'm ready to take over the package I will ask the CRAN team and
give them more details.

Many thanks to all.

Lluís Revilla

On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 08:38, Uwe Ligges 
 wrote:




On 01.07.2021 23:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

On 01/07/2021 3:11 p.m., Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:


On 1 July 2021 at 20:00, Lluís Revilla wrote:
| I have a question related to changing maintainers.
| What happens when the old/current maintainer does not respond to
| emails or other methods of contact?
| Would the new maintainer need to wait until the package is removed
| from CRAN to submit it again?

Not speaking for CRAN here but my understanding always was that a full
and
complete 'email handshake' with both old and new maintainer was 
strongly

preferred / the default simply to prevent misunderstandings or
shenanigans.


I'd agree in the normal case where the package is still active on CRAN.

In the case where a package has unaddressed issues with no response to
CRAN from the maintainer, they'd probably be quite happy to have 
someone

volunteer to take over.


... and if in doubt, ask the CRAN team and give them details.

Best,
Uwe Ligges



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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Change package maintainer

2021-07-02 Thread Spencer Graves
	  I can suggest one example: multcompView:  I created it during or 
before 2006 and passed it during or before 2011 to Luciano Selzer 
.  I do not remember the exact process, and 
procedures could have changed since then.  However, I think I remember 
communicating with the CRAN maintainers after Selzer and I agreed he 
would take it over.  Beyond that, I see that the DESCRIPTION file for 
multicompView0.1-3 lists BOTH of us as Maintainer.  The version before 
that lists me only, and the one after lists him.[1]



	  Second, last September, Brian Ripley sent an email to 50 different 
people saying gdata had problems, the maintainer had not responded, and 
it was scheduled to be archived along with all its strong reverse 
dependencies on 2020-09-25.  I don't know what happened from that except 
that the package is still on CRAN with date Published: 2017-06-06, but 
my Ecfun package no longer uses it.



	  Beyond that, I'm pretty sure that anyone can adopt a package in the 
archives that is no longer on CRAN and resurrect it if you agree to fix 
the problems.  However, you should discuss with the CRAN maintainers.



  Spencer


[1]
https://cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/Archive/multcompView/


On 7/2/21 5:30 AM, Lluís Revilla wrote:

Hi,

I agree that the email handshake is the best approach (and very
reasonable to expect it).
I thought that maybe in cases like this there was a waiting period
and/or multiple attempts to contact the maintainer and someone on the
mailing list might have had some experience with the process.
When I'm ready to take over the package I will ask the CRAN team and
give them more details.

Many thanks to all.

Lluís Revilla

On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 08:38, Uwe Ligges  wrote:




On 01.07.2021 23:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

On 01/07/2021 3:11 p.m., Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:


On 1 July 2021 at 20:00, Lluís Revilla wrote:
| I have a question related to changing maintainers.
| What happens when the old/current maintainer does not respond to
| emails or other methods of contact?
| Would the new maintainer need to wait until the package is removed
| from CRAN to submit it again?

Not speaking for CRAN here but my understanding always was that a full
and
complete 'email handshake' with both old and new maintainer was strongly
preferred / the default simply to prevent misunderstandings or
shenanigans.


I'd agree in the normal case where the package is still active on CRAN.

In the case where a package has unaddressed issues with no response to
CRAN from the maintainer, they'd probably be quite happy to have someone
volunteer to take over.


... and if in doubt, ask the CRAN team and give them details.

Best,
Uwe Ligges



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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Change package maintainer

2021-07-02 Thread Lluís Revilla
Hi,

I agree that the email handshake is the best approach (and very
reasonable to expect it).
I thought that maybe in cases like this there was a waiting period
and/or multiple attempts to contact the maintainer and someone on the
mailing list might have had some experience with the process.
When I'm ready to take over the package I will ask the CRAN team and
give them more details.

Many thanks to all.

Lluís Revilla

On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 08:38, Uwe Ligges  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 01.07.2021 23:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> > On 01/07/2021 3:11 p.m., Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1 July 2021 at 20:00, Lluís Revilla wrote:
> >> | I have a question related to changing maintainers.
> >> | What happens when the old/current maintainer does not respond to
> >> | emails or other methods of contact?
> >> | Would the new maintainer need to wait until the package is removed
> >> | from CRAN to submit it again?
> >>
> >> Not speaking for CRAN here but my understanding always was that a full
> >> and
> >> complete 'email handshake' with both old and new maintainer was strongly
> >> preferred / the default simply to prevent misunderstandings or
> >> shenanigans.
> >
> > I'd agree in the normal case where the package is still active on CRAN.
> >
> > In the case where a package has unaddressed issues with no response to
> > CRAN from the maintainer, they'd probably be quite happy to have someone
> > volunteer to take over.
>
> ... and if in doubt, ask the CRAN team and give them details.
>
> Best,
> Uwe Ligges
>
>
> > Duncan Murdoch
> >
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Re: [R-pkg-devel] Change package maintainer

2021-07-02 Thread Uwe Ligges




On 01.07.2021 23:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

On 01/07/2021 3:11 p.m., Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:


On 1 July 2021 at 20:00, Lluís Revilla wrote:
| I have a question related to changing maintainers.
| What happens when the old/current maintainer does not respond to
| emails or other methods of contact?
| Would the new maintainer need to wait until the package is removed
| from CRAN to submit it again?

Not speaking for CRAN here but my understanding always was that a full 
and

complete 'email handshake' with both old and new maintainer was strongly
preferred / the default simply to prevent misunderstandings or 
shenanigans.


I'd agree in the normal case where the package is still active on CRAN.

In the case where a package has unaddressed issues with no response to 
CRAN from the maintainer, they'd probably be quite happy to have someone 
volunteer to take over.


... and if in doubt, ask the CRAN team and give them details.

Best,
Uwe Ligges



Duncan Murdoch

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