Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-22 Thread Avi Gross via R-package-devel
: r-package-devel@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package? >>>>> Lenth, Russell V >>>>> on Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:43:07 + writes: > As I suspected, and a good point. But please note that the term

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-22 Thread Spencer Graves
On 9/22/21 2:38 AM, Martin Maechler wrote: Lenth, Russell V on Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:43:07 + writes: > As I suspected, and a good point. But please note that the term "retired" causes angst, and it may be good to change that to "superceded" or something else. well, some of us

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-22 Thread Martin Maechler
> Lenth, Russell V > on Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:43:07 + writes: > As I suspected, and a good point. But please note that the term "retired" causes angst, and it may be good to change that to "superceded" or something else. well, some of us will become "retired" somewhere in

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP)
-project.org >Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package? > >Yes, as Lionel said that is why we have changed our terminology to >superseded — we wanted to imply that a retired package was still a >useful member of society, if not working ful

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Hadley Wickham
ply instead of plyr::aaply. > > -Original Message- > From: Hadley Wickham > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:48 AM > To: Lenth, Russell V > Cc: Jeff Newmiller ; r-package-devel@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"p

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Lenth, Russell V
Cc: Jeff Newmiller ; r-package-devel@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package? > But for the broader question, Jeff is saying that there really are 700 > packages that are in potential trouble! I think that's rather an overstatement of

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Jeff Newmiller
I agree... but trouble is in the eyes of the beholder. If OP's approval process requires use of actively-maintained software, then use of code depending on one of these "retired"/"superceded" packages could indeed be a problem... for the OP. OP cannot expect to be able to impose those

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Hadley Wickham
> But for the broader question, Jeff is saying that there really are 700 > packages that are in potential trouble! I think that's rather an overstatement of the problem — there's nothing wrong with plyr; it's just no longer under active development. If anything, plyr is one of the safest

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Lenth, Russell V
OK. Well, as Noah has pointed out, I can just use apply to do what I need, and get plyr out of the picture. But for the broader question, Jeff is saying that there really are 700 packages that are in potential trouble! __

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Noah Greifer
gt; > > >RL > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Jeff Newmiller > >Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 10:36 AM > >To: r-package-devel@r-project.org; Lenth, Russell V < > russell-le...@uiowa.edu>; r-package-devel@r-project.org > >Subject:

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Jeff Newmiller
RAN. > >RL > >-Original Message- >From: Jeff Newmiller >Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 10:36 AM >To: r-package-devel@r-project.org; Lenth, Russell V ; >r-package-devel@r-project.org >Subject: [External] Re: [R-pkg-devel] What is a "retired"package? >

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Lenth, Russell V
ell V ; r-package-devel@r-project.org Subject: [External] Re: [R-pkg-devel] What is a "retired"package? There is nothing official about that term. However, the meaning as intended by the package authors seems pretty clear to me, and if some organization decides not to allow softwa

Re: [R-pkg-devel] [External] Re: What is a "retired"package?

2021-09-21 Thread Lenth, Russell V
From: Andrew Simmons akwsi...@gmail.com > Doesn't apply already work on any dimensional arrays using argument MARGIN? Egads, yes it does! I can't explain why I didn't know that... Russ [[alternative HTML version deleted]]