Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros

2013-02-04 Thread v_coudrain
a continuous distribution it is difficult. I'd certainly better take a descriptive way of presenting my data for sparse pollen types. Best wishes Valérie Message du 04/02/13 à 13h15 De : Liz Pryde A : v_coudr...@voila.fr Copie à : Objet : Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros Hi

Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros

2013-02-03 Thread v_coudrain
, Valérie Message du 02/02/13 à 20h47 De : Liz Pryde A : v_coudr...@voila.fr Copie à : Cade Brian , r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Objet : Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros Have you plotted the raw data to have a look at the distribution? You could try another exponential

Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros

2013-02-03 Thread Liz Pryde
quasipoisson on raw counts or quasibinomial on proportion gives me awful distributions of residuals and meaningless results. Valérie Message du 01/02/13 à 17h22 De : Cade, Brian A : v_coudr...@voila.fr Copie à : r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Objet : Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data

Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros

2013-02-02 Thread Liz Pryde
on proportion gives me awful distributions of residuals and meaningless results. Valérie Message du 01/02/13 à 17h22 De : Cade, Brian A : v_coudr...@voila.fr Copie à : r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Objet : Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros For a fully parametric approach

[R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros

2013-02-01 Thread v_coudrain
Dear all, I am trying to test how the proportion of pollen of different plants found in the brood cells of a wild bee changes over time. I conducted 4 sampling sessions (thus time is a factor with 4 levels) and collected several pollen samples for each time point (300 pollen grains counted for

Re: [R-sig-eco] proportion data with many zeros

2013-02-01 Thread Cade, Brian
For a fully parametric approach, you might want to use of zero-inflated beta distribution (e.g., as available in gamlss package), which is designed for zero-inflated proportions. Or for a semi-parametric approach, you could estimated a sequence of quantile regression estimates (e.g., in package