Re: [R-sig-eco] random effects in a linear mixed model

2011-08-22 Thread Dunbar, Michael J.
-project.org [mailto:r-sig-ecology-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Christian Parker Sent: 20 August 2011 17:44 To: Elizabeth Green Cc: r-sig-ecology@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-eco] random effects in a linear mixed model Edgar, Based on the information provided its difficult

Re: [R-sig-eco] random effects in a linear mixed model

2011-08-22 Thread Edgar Torres
agosto, 2011 15:43:14 Asunto: Re: [R-sig-eco] random effects in a linear mixed model Edgar I agree with what Chris says (1 + BOAT | fYEAR) makes no sense It is probably (1|BOAT) + (1|fYEAR) that you want Providing you have enough boats and years to estimate variance components for these two

Re: [R-sig-eco] random effects in a linear mixed model

2011-08-20 Thread Christian Parker
Edgar, Based on the information provided its difficult to thoroughly answer your question. But I will assume that you have samples within each year, say weekly or monthly. Based on this I would say that you can treat the years as a random effect but I dont think that I would do it the way that

[R-sig-eco] random effects in a linear mixed model

2011-08-19 Thread Elizabeth Green
On Aug 19, 2011, at 2:00 AM, r-sig-ecology-requ...@r-project.org wrote: 1. Random effects in a linear mix model (Edgar Torres) Edgar, the random effects represent the variable that has an effect, but not an effect that is likely to be biologically interesting, in this case, your