Re: [R-sig-eco] A request for suggestions about FD

2011-08-24 Thread Etienne Laliberte
Dear Zhifeng, You have already sent me three personal emails about this, and I've already responded that you should try with calc.FRic = FALSE. What is likely happening is that R struggles to compute the multidimensional convex hull volume with your data -- this is explained in ?dbFD. Why don't yo

Re: [R-sig-eco] A request for suggestions about FD

2011-08-24 Thread Sarah Goslee
Hi Zhifeng, We need rather more information to help here. At least, your OS, version of R, version of FD - sessionInfo() will provide much of it. What are the dimensions of your data frame? What is the output of str() for your data frame? When you say "crashed," what exactly happened? Did you re

[R-sig-eco] A request for suggestions about FD

2011-08-24 Thread zhf ding
Dear list, I am a beginner in R. Now I conduct my research in the Thousand Island Lake, China, 50-year isolated islands in a man-made lake, to study the impacts of habitat fragmentation on bird functional diversity (FRic, FEve, FDiv and FDis). But I faced some problems. I couldn’t calculate

[R-sig-eco] Bivalve study

2011-08-24 Thread Dixon, Philip M [STAT]
Chris, This is an example of a study with 2 factors that is much easier to analyze as a 1 way ANOVA. You have three treatments. The structure of those treatments implies two interesting treatment contrasts: the effect of raking, estimated by the difference between control and procedural con

[R-sig-eco] Re : Re : guidance required (GLM?)

2011-08-24 Thread momadou sow
Hi Gavin Simpson, Thank you to bring this correction. Sorry for this mistake! Momadou   De : Gavin Simpson À : momadou sow Cc : Christopher Cesar ; "R-sig-ecology@r-project.org" Envoyé le : Mercredi 24 Août 2011 14h30 Objet : Re: [R-sig-eco] Re : guidance required (GLM?) On Wed, 2011-08-24 a

Re: [R-sig-eco] Re : guidance required (GLM?)

2011-08-24 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:16 +0100, momadou sow wrote: > Hi, > With glm, you add the binomial family: In general, no you don't - a GLM is far more than a logistic regression. Otherwise, why would glm() allow for more families than just binomial? As biomass is positive (or at least non-negative) an

Re: [R-sig-eco] Re : guidance required (GLM?)

2011-08-24 Thread Dunbar, Michael J.
Chris is unlikely to need a binomial model if the response variable is biomass. glm is generalised linear model: are you sure you don't just want lm (linear model with normal residuals) Chris? You're new to stats, but you are trying to do something quite complex, you do need to build up you kn

[R-sig-eco] Re : guidance required (GLM?)

2011-08-24 Thread momadou sow
Hi, With glm, you add the binomial family: model<-glm(biomass~Shore*Raked*Species+Shore*Fished*Species,family=binomial) model De : Christopher Cesar À : "r-sig-ecology@r-project.org" Envoyé le : Mercredi 24 Août 2011 12h02 Objet : [R-sig-eco] guidance required (GLM?) Hi all, I have carried ou

[R-sig-eco] guidance required (GLM?)

2011-08-24 Thread Christopher Cesar
Hi all, I have carried out experimental removal of bivalves at 2 intertidal shores. Bivalves were removed by raking of surface sediments. I wish compare the biomass values of for a total of 8 species between the 2 shores My 3 treatments are: Undisturbed Controls (Cont), Procedural Controls (Pro