Re: [R-sig-Geo] rgdal retirement
Dear Roger I would like to offer you a strong praise and recognition from our team at INPE, Brasil, for your strong contributions to the R-spatial community. Rgdal is perhaps the most tangible direct outcome from your efforts, but your influence goes much beyond the support for developing R packages. You have made a decisive contribution to the whole R-spatial community, by your strong community for building bridges between us. I remember vividly your visit to Brazil in 2002, where you showed us the benefits of joining the R community. It took some time, but now we are firmly on board. Your example and your leadership are encouraging proofs that there’s hope to build a better and more cooperative planet. All the best Gilberto === Prof Dr Gilberto Camara Senior Researcher National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil https://gilbertocamara.org/ == >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 9:35 AM Jean-Luc Dupouey < >> jean-luc.dupo...@inrae.fr> >>> wrote: >>> Dear Roger Bivand, I read your message about the rgdal retirement. It was a nice package and an important step in the development of R-spatial. I looked for alternatives for the functions I was using, but I didn't find them all. Those I am missing: . ogrInfo . ogrFIDs . make_EPSG Do you know of any (more or less) equivalent functions in the packages you mentioned that have taken over from rgdal? Thanks in advance, Jean-Luc Dupouey -- INRAE UMR Silva F-54280 Champenoux France ___ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Roger Bivand >> Emeritus Professor >> Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics, >> Postboks 3490 Ytre Sandviken, 5045 Bergen, Norway. >> e-mail: roger.biv...@nhh.no >> https://orcid.org/-0003-2392-6140 >> https://scholar.google.no/citations?user=AWeghB0J=en >> > > > -- > Michael Sumner > Software and Database Engineer > Australian Antarctic Division > Hobart, Australia > e-mail: mdsum...@gmail.com > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > ___ > R-sig-Geo mailing list > R-sig-Geo@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo ___ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo
Re: [R-sig-Geo] rgdal retirement
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:04 PM Roger Bivand wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021, Michael Sumner wrote:
>
> > Hi Jean-Luc, if the packages mentioned don't yet cover it, you can get
> > ogrInfo and ogrFIDs with a combination of vapour's vapour_read_names()
> > (for FID), vapour_geom_summary() (for FID and type) and
> > vapour_layer_info().
>
> In sf you can use the fid_column_name= argument to st_read() to retreive
> the FIDs with the geometries, but I think not the FIDs alone. orgInfo grew
> over time and became unwieldy, are there specific components that you use?
> Might sf::st_read() be modified to report these (and return FIDs) without
> reading the data and geometries? Using vapour is of course a good way to
> proceed, and very useful for cross-checking (Do rgdal and vapour return
> the same values, I hope so, vapour is much cleaner).
>
>
They do where I've checked! I've put some notes here running the code
below: https://gist.github.com/mdsumner/6e756ded5f73c19bfb5935b12e4cec16
file <- "list_locality_postcode_meander_valley.tab"
## MapInfo file is 1-based FID
mvfile <- system.file(file.path("extdata/tab", file), package="vapour")
range(vapour::vapour_read_names(mvfile))
range(rgdal::ogrFIDs(mvfile, "list_locality_postcode_meander_valley"))
## shapefile is 0-based FID
pfile <- system.file("extdata/point.shp", package="vapour")
range(vapour::vapour_read_names(pfile))
range(rgdal::ogrFIDs(pfile, "point"))
## geopackage is 1-based
gfile <- system.file("gpkg/nc.gpkg", package = "sf")
range(vapour::vapour_read_names(gfile))
range(rgdal::ogrFIDs(gfile, "nc.gpkg")) ## quirky layer name, it's not
always predictable
## real DB used not to have FIDS accessible by SQL (so I thought ... but
now it seems to work
vapour::vapour_read_attributes(mvfile, sql = "SELECT FID FROM
list_locality_postcode_meander_valley")
sf::read_sf(mvfile, query = "SELECT FID FROM
list_locality_postcode_meander_valley")
## some formats are arbitrary FIDS (not sequential by-1 or starting from
0/1)
osmfile <- system.file("extdata/osm/osm-ways.osm", package = "vapour")
vapour::vapour_read_names(osmfile)
rgdal::ogrFIDs(osmfile, "points")
My major concern with the vapour version is it won't handle 64-bit FIDs, I
tried and failed to get that to work but I've also never needed it, I don't
use databases much. I'm not sure if there's a broader variety of FIDS/names
to be concerned with.
> >
> > For make_EPSG() it's probably time to hit the proj.db more directly and
> I'd
> > be happy to have a look at that.
>
> Right, RSQLite can handle this quite well, but sometimes the names of
> tables and fields in tables change.
>
>
Indeed, note that you can read it with gdal itself i.e.
## on my linux (I don't know how to generalize this proj.db find step)
f <- "/usr/share/proj/proj.db"
## or CRAN built windows/macos
#f <- system.file("proj/proj.db", package = "sf", mustWork = TRUE)
## table of authority codes, but I don't generally know my way around this
projected_crs <- sf::read_sf(f, "projected_crs")
Cheers, Mike
Roger
>
> >
> > Cheers, Mike
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 9:35 AM Jean-Luc Dupouey <
> jean-luc.dupo...@inrae.fr>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Roger Bivand,
> >>
> >> I read your message about the rgdal retirement. It was a nice package
> >> and an important step in the development of R-spatial.
> >>
> >> I looked for alternatives for the functions I was using, but I didn't
> >> find them all. Those I am missing:
> >>
> >> . ogrInfo
> >> . ogrFIDs
> >> . make_EPSG
> >>
> >> Do you know of any (more or less) equivalent functions in the packages
> >> you mentioned that have taken over from rgdal?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Jean-Luc Dupouey
> >>
> >> --
> >> INRAE
> >> UMR Silva
> >> F-54280 Champenoux
> >> France
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Roger Bivand
> Emeritus Professor
> Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics,
> Postboks 3490 Ytre Sandviken, 5045 Bergen, Norway.
> e-mail: roger.biv...@nhh.no
> https://orcid.org/-0003-2392-6140
> https://scholar.google.no/citations?user=AWeghB0J=en
>
--
Michael Sumner
Software and Database Engineer
Australian Antarctic Division
Hobart, Australia
e-mail: mdsum...@gmail.com
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Re: [R-sig-Geo] rgdal retirement
On Sun, 19 Sep 2021, Michael Sumner wrote: Hi Jean-Luc, if the packages mentioned don't yet cover it, you can get ogrInfo and ogrFIDs with a combination of vapour's vapour_read_names() (for FID), vapour_geom_summary() (for FID and type) and vapour_layer_info(). In sf you can use the fid_column_name= argument to st_read() to retreive the FIDs with the geometries, but I think not the FIDs alone. orgInfo grew over time and became unwieldy, are there specific components that you use? Might sf::st_read() be modified to report these (and return FIDs) without reading the data and geometries? Using vapour is of course a good way to proceed, and very useful for cross-checking (Do rgdal and vapour return the same values, I hope so, vapour is much cleaner). For make_EPSG() it's probably time to hit the proj.db more directly and I'd be happy to have a look at that. Right, RSQLite can handle this quite well, but sometimes the names of tables and fields in tables change. Roger Cheers, Mike On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 9:35 AM Jean-Luc Dupouey wrote: Dear Roger Bivand, I read your message about the rgdal retirement. It was a nice package and an important step in the development of R-spatial. I looked for alternatives for the functions I was using, but I didn't find them all. Those I am missing: . ogrInfo . ogrFIDs . make_EPSG Do you know of any (more or less) equivalent functions in the packages you mentioned that have taken over from rgdal? Thanks in advance, Jean-Luc Dupouey -- INRAE UMR Silva F-54280 Champenoux France ___ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo -- Roger Bivand Emeritus Professor Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics, Postboks 3490 Ytre Sandviken, 5045 Bergen, Norway. e-mail: roger.biv...@nhh.no https://orcid.org/-0003-2392-6140 https://scholar.google.no/citations?user=AWeghB0J=en ___ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo
Re: [R-sig-Geo] rgdal retirement
Hi Jean-Luc, if the packages mentioned don't yet cover it, you can get ogrInfo and ogrFIDs with a combination of vapour's vapour_read_names() (for FID), vapour_geom_summary() (for FID and type) and vapour_layer_info(). For make_EPSG() it's probably time to hit the proj.db more directly and I'd be happy to have a look at that. Cheers, Mike On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 9:35 AM Jean-Luc Dupouey wrote: > Dear Roger Bivand, > > I read your message about the rgdal retirement. It was a nice package > and an important step in the development of R-spatial. > > I looked for alternatives for the functions I was using, but I didn't > find them all. Those I am missing: > > . ogrInfo > . ogrFIDs > . make_EPSG > > Do you know of any (more or less) equivalent functions in the packages > you mentioned that have taken over from rgdal? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jean-Luc Dupouey > > -- > INRAE > UMR Silva > F-54280 Champenoux > France > > ___ > R-sig-Geo mailing list > R-sig-Geo@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo > -- Michael Sumner Software and Database Engineer Australian Antarctic Division Hobart, Australia e-mail: mdsum...@gmail.com [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo
[R-sig-Geo] rgdal retirement
Dear Roger Bivand, I read your message about the rgdal retirement. It was a nice package and an important step in the development of R-spatial. I looked for alternatives for the functions I was using, but I didn't find them all. Those I am missing: . ogrInfo . ogrFIDs . make_EPSG Do you know of any (more or less) equivalent functions in the packages you mentioned that have taken over from rgdal? Thanks in advance, Jean-Luc Dupouey -- INRAE UMR Silva F-54280 Champenoux France ___ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo
