Re: [R-gui] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread Jeffrey J. Hallman
If you're looking for a GUI toolkit that: 1. Is cross-platform, 2. Has a good collection of widgets that look good on all platforms, and 3. Is easy to work with from R then it is hopeless. There is no such toolkit. As one poster mentioned, most of the better GUI toolkits are very ob

Re: [R-gui] [Rd] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey J. Hallman wrote: > Think about it. Once you have a basic math package that can handle > matrix > programming and various mathematical functions, building the various > statistical modeling tools on top of them is not that hard. What > makes S and > R

Re: [R-gui] [Rd] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread Jan De Leeuw
Ah. Let the language wars begin. Although I agree that going with R is basically a sad mistake http://www.jstatsoft.org/index.php?vol=13 giving up on R/S is no longer an option, I hope. Too much investment from the community. Reculer pour mieux sauter, indeed. On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeffre

Re: [R-gui] [Rd] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread Jeffrey J. Hallman
> "K" == Kasper Daniel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: K> On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey J. Hallman wrote: K> >> Think about it. Once you have a basic math package that can handle >> matrix >> programming and various mathematical functions, building the various >> sta

Re: [R-gui] [Rd] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread Peter Kleiweg
> On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey J. Hallman wrote: > > There is a better way, and that is to give up on R. Start > > over with a better programming environment, one that is > > object oriented, as flexible and dynamic as R, is cross > > platform, easy to program in, and has decent GUI

Re: [R-gui] [Rd] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread Byron Ellis
And I so wanted to stay out of this particular discussion, I hope you're proud of what you've done. *cracks knuckles* Right, lets get to it then. On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey J. Hallman wrote: > If you're looking for a GUI toolkit that: > >1. Is cross-platform, >2. Has a go

Re: [R-gui] [Rd] R GUI considerations (was: R, Wine, and multi-threadedness)

2005-10-19 Thread James Wettenhall
Hi Peter and everyone, [Hmmm, didn't I say I was not really interested in spending time getting into these discussions anymore? Oh well, I can't help myself. ;-) ] > Why would you want a GUI for something like R in the first > place? It is a programming language. That is its force. Nothing > bea