On 31/10/2023 18:24, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
On Oct 31, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Prof Brian Ripley <rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
On 31/10/2023 13:47, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
Hello.
I saw that a minor release has been rolled up with binaries coming soon. My
question is whether or not the issues identified (I’m thinking mainly of a
window focus issue reported on this list) after Sonoma released have been
patched in this version. I did not see anything specific in the summary of
changes that went with the email notification to r-help.
Because you are talking about R.app aka Mac-GUI and that is a separate project.
See
https://svn.r-project.org/R-packages/trunk/Mac-GUI/NEWS
As for R itself, there are major ramifications of the un-announced replacement
of libiconv in macOS 14 and further changes in 14.1 (and who knows what else
has been changed without being in the release notes). I certainly would not
use any version of R older than 4.3.2, and R-devel would be preferred for
package development (and that will need further changes to R which I guess will
be ported to R-patched in due course).
With 14 you are likely to see silent substitutions in iconv() (which is used
pervasively in R): in 14.1, Aborts from libiconv. Although the latter is
supposedly Open Source, only the 14.0 changes have been published thus far (and
Apple often does not publish them for .x versions).
Thank you for this reply. I have never used iconv() directly so looked it up
and see it has to do with conversion of character encodings. I guess that means
it can happen in the background, especially when importing data. Correct?
In many, many places 'in the background', at C level as well as R level.
As I said, it is 'pervasive'.
It wasn’t clear to me if, "in 14.1, Aborts from libiconv,” means that in 14.1
when iconv() is used it will fail.
Would a fair interpretation of all this be to hold off a little while longer?
If so, is there a spot, similar to the GUI NEWS you pointed me to, that I can
watch myself and not keep bothering the community?
R-devel's NEWS file.
If you develop R packages or if you work with non-ASCII data, consider
holding off for a quite a while. But I am not the right person to ask
-- someone has to try the new versions to find and debug the problems ....
--
Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk
Emeritus Professor of Applied Statistics, University of Oxford
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