Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
Yeah I **guess** so. Even though a close look at ?.Platform doesn't particularly help clarify the somewhat fuzzy concept of "default type" or "preferred setting for options('pkgType')": pkgType: character string, the preferred setting for ‘options("pkgType")’. Values ‘"source"’, ‘"mac.binary.el-capitan"’ and ‘"win.binary"’ are currently in use. > options("pkgType") $pkgType [1] "both" Cheers, H. On 4/2/20 13:34, Simon Urbanek wrote: Hervé, what Brian was referring to was .Platform$pkgType [1] "mac.binary" Cheers, Simon On 2/04/2020, at 10:20 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: On 4/2/20 02:05, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: On 02/04/2020 09:34, Simon Urbanek wrote: Hervé, "both" is a fairly recent addition and my guess would be that it has been guarded specifically since it is the default and installing binaries only works for the CRAN version. I didn't look at the new "both" code to see how it knows that it's the CRAN version - there is really no special "CRAN" flag. At some point we were guarding binary installs in general by checking the OS and R, but it was fragile - you could be building using the same system as we do and yet use a different compiler, so I think it's in general impossible unless we introduce some extra identification of the binaries. So, yes, if you compile R from sources yourself it is not guaranteed to be compatible with CRAN package binaries. Those are only built and tested with the CRAN R binary. It is simple: type = 'both' has to know what the two types are. Only the CRAN binaries have the default type set to "mac.binary": building from the sources gives you a default type of "source". See ?.Platform. AFAIK the CRAN binary has the default type set to "both". Anyway knowing the defaults is interesting but only orthogonal to the discussion. H. Cheers, Simon On 2/04/2020, at 7:47 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cran.r-2Dproject.org=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=dwNIQLeXMIf8EpV1P4Y7_Dy14ehDLhEXXodGF8S4pu8= ") : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=y45lZ-rli7qQ2JViPRCfXMg9UUKbXNAZ8S5y5Kn3IAU= ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=y45lZ-rli7qQ2JViPRCfXMg9UUKbXNAZ8S5y5Kn3IAU= -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
Hervé, what Brian was referring to was > .Platform$pkgType [1] "mac.binary" Cheers, Simon > On 2/04/2020, at 10:20 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: > > > > On 4/2/20 02:05, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: >> On 02/04/2020 09:34, Simon Urbanek wrote: >>> Hervé, >>> >>> "both" is a fairly recent addition and my guess would be that it has been >>> guarded specifically since it is the default and installing binaries only >>> works for the CRAN version. I didn't look at the new "both" code to see how >>> it knows that it's the CRAN version - there is really no special "CRAN" >>> flag. At some point we were guarding binary installs in general by checking >>> the OS and R, but it was fragile - you could be building using the same >>> system as we do and yet use a different compiler, so I think it's in >>> general impossible unless we introduce some extra identification of the >>> binaries. So, yes, if you compile R from sources yourself it is not >>> guaranteed to be compatible with CRAN package binaries. Those are only >>> built and tested with the CRAN R binary. >> It is simple: type = 'both' has to know what the two types are. Only the >> CRAN binaries have the default type set to "mac.binary": building from the >> sources gives you a default type of "source". See ?.Platform. > > AFAIK the CRAN binary has the default type set to "both". > > Anyway knowing the defaults is interesting but only orthogonal to the > discussion. > > H. > >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Simon >>> >>> On 2/04/2020, at 7:47 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cran.r-2Dproject.org=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=dwNIQLeXMIf8EpV1P4Y7_Dy14ehDLhEXXodGF8S4pu8= ") : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. > sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=y45lZ-rli7qQ2JViPRCfXMg9UUKbXNAZ8S5y5Kn3IAU= >>> >>> ___ >>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=y45lZ-rli7qQ2JViPRCfXMg9UUKbXNAZ8S5y5Kn3IAU= >>> > > -- > Hervé Pagès > > Program in Computational Biology > Division of Public Health Sciences > Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center > 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 > P.O. Box 19024 > Seattle, WA 98109-1024 > > E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org > Phone: (206) 667-5791 > Fax:(206) 667-1319 > > ___ > R-SIG-Mac mailing list > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
On 4/2/20 02:05, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: On 02/04/2020 09:34, Simon Urbanek wrote: Hervé, "both" is a fairly recent addition and my guess would be that it has been guarded specifically since it is the default and installing binaries only works for the CRAN version. I didn't look at the new "both" code to see how it knows that it's the CRAN version - there is really no special "CRAN" flag. At some point we were guarding binary installs in general by checking the OS and R, but it was fragile - you could be building using the same system as we do and yet use a different compiler, so I think it's in general impossible unless we introduce some extra identification of the binaries. So, yes, if you compile R from sources yourself it is not guaranteed to be compatible with CRAN package binaries. Those are only built and tested with the CRAN R binary. It is simple: type = 'both' has to know what the two types are. Only the CRAN binaries have the default type set to "mac.binary": building from the sources gives you a default type of "source". See ?.Platform. AFAIK the CRAN binary has the default type set to "both". Anyway knowing the defaults is interesting but only orthogonal to the discussion. H. Cheers, Simon On 2/04/2020, at 7:47 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cran.r-2Dproject.org=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=dwNIQLeXMIf8EpV1P4Y7_Dy14ehDLhEXXodGF8S4pu8= ") : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax: (206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=y45lZ-rli7qQ2JViPRCfXMg9UUKbXNAZ8S5y5Kn3IAU= ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=MSzgfKtoxGL_KkQlwrc2_nVNhirnKTu8bSZjbK7pWfo=y45lZ-rli7qQ2JViPRCfXMg9UUKbXNAZ8S5y5Kn3IAU= -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
On 02/04/2020 09:34, Simon Urbanek wrote: Hervé, "both" is a fairly recent addition and my guess would be that it has been guarded specifically since it is the default and installing binaries only works for the CRAN version. I didn't look at the new "both" code to see how it knows that it's the CRAN version - there is really no special "CRAN" flag. At some point we were guarding binary installs in general by checking the OS and R, but it was fragile - you could be building using the same system as we do and yet use a different compiler, so I think it's in general impossible unless we introduce some extra identification of the binaries. So, yes, if you compile R from sources yourself it is not guaranteed to be compatible with CRAN package binaries. Those are only built and tested with the CRAN R binary. It is simple: type = 'both' has to know what the two types are. Only the CRAN binaries have the default type set to "mac.binary": building from the sources gives you a default type of "source". See ?.Platform. Cheers, Simon On 2/04/2020, at 7:47 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://cran.r-project.org;) : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Emeritus Professor of Applied Statistics, University of Oxford ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
Thanks. Only seeing this after I sent my other email about also getting crashes when I use your conf.high-sierra-x86_64 settings. But of course I'm not on Catalina so my setting is not exactly the same as yours. Therefore I should conclude that the CRAN binaries are not meant for me. H. On 4/2/20 01:34, Simon Urbanek wrote: Hervé, "both" is a fairly recent addition and my guess would be that it has been guarded specifically since it is the default and installing binaries only works for the CRAN version. I didn't look at the new "both" code to see how it knows that it's the CRAN version - there is really no special "CRAN" flag. At some point we were guarding binary installs in general by checking the OS and R, but it was fragile - you could be building using the same system as we do and yet use a different compiler, so I think it's in general impossible unless we introduce some extra identification of the binaries. So, yes, if you compile R from sources yourself it is not guaranteed to be compatible with CRAN package binaries. Those are only built and tested with the CRAN R binary. Cheers, Simon On 2/04/2020, at 7:47 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cran.r-2Dproject.org=DwIFaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=1-DiLdDSQroIloL3L_LKjjvH_qEO6FioafafYgQlOec=7DtbiQ_hSodOXZfS86zwIWgG79R3q9TbA6wYXp9_Dps= ") : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stat.ethz.ch_mailman_listinfo_r-2Dsig-2Dmac=DwIFaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=1-DiLdDSQroIloL3L_LKjjvH_qEO6FioafafYgQlOec=_OV3TWFsNFtJKjT7wgVfzpmhuXC8hjOLzEo7WdhdRjo= -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
FWIW I also get the same thing (i.e. R crashes on loading CRAN binary packages) if I configure R 4.0 alpha like here https://svn.r-project.org/R-dev-web/trunk/QA/Simon/R4/conf.high-sierra-x86_64, that is, if all the compilers use -mmacosx-version-min=10.13 and I set --build=x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 In that case I end up with the following sessionInfo(): > sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 H. On 4/1/20 23:47, Hervé Pagès wrote: Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cran.r-2Dproject.org=DwIDaQ=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ=BK7q3XeAvimeWdGbWY_wJYbW0WYiZvSXAJJKaaPhzWA=H0XG-BbaqC0wtDJVNafEVTuhS6RZzzjXrTCwAq3rYGg=iXhmlQ7VZsVt9PcHpO66FPP66TY_GHko8gQqVv_CCNw= ") : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. > sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
Hervé, "both" is a fairly recent addition and my guess would be that it has been guarded specifically since it is the default and installing binaries only works for the CRAN version. I didn't look at the new "both" code to see how it knows that it's the CRAN version - there is really no special "CRAN" flag. At some point we were guarding binary installs in general by checking the OS and R, but it was fragile - you could be building using the same system as we do and yet use a different compiler, so I think it's in general impossible unless we introduce some extra identification of the binaries. So, yes, if you compile R from sources yourself it is not guaranteed to be compatible with CRAN package binaries. Those are only built and tested with the CRAN R binary. Cheers, Simon > On 2/04/2020, at 7:47 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't > let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: > > Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = > "https://cran.r-project.org;) : >type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS > > OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not > compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't > complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them > causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing > library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these > packages from source works without any problem. > > So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant > to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't > type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? > > Thanks, > H. > > > sessionInfo() > R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) > Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) > Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 > > Matrix products: default > BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib > LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib > > locale: > [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 > > attached base packages: > [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base > > loaded via a namespace (and not attached): > [1] compiler_4.0.0 > > > -- > Hervé Pagès > > Program in Computational Biology > Division of Public Health Sciences > Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center > 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 > P.O. Box 19024 > Seattle, WA 98109-1024 > > E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org > Phone: (206) 667-5791 > Fax:(206) 667-1319 > > ___ > R-SIG-Mac mailing list > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
[R-SIG-Mac] Installing CRAN binary packages with R 4.0 installed from source crashes R
Hi Simon, After installing R 4.0 alpha from source on a macOS Mojave system, R won't let me use type="both" to install CRAN packages. I get: Error in install.packages("rJava", type = "both", repos = "https://cran.r-project.org;) : type == "both" can only be used on Windows or a CRAN build for macOS OK so this suggests that the CRAN binary packages for R 4.0 are not compatible with my R. Surprisingly though using type="mac.binary" doesn't complain and lets me install these binaries. But then trying to load them causes segfaults. I've tried this with rJava, Rcpp, ggplot2, and doing library() on any of them crashes my session. Note that installing all these packages from source works without any problem. So my questions are: is it the case that CRAN binary packages are not meant to be used with an R 4.0 installed from source? If yes then why isn't type="mac.binary" blocking this like type="both" does? Thanks, H. > sessionInfo() R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78132) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Users/biocbuild/bbs-3.11-bioc/R/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.0 -- Hervé Pagès Program in Computational Biology Division of Public Health Sciences Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Ave. N, M1-B514 P.O. Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109-1024 E-mail: hpa...@fredhutch.org Phone: (206) 667-5791 Fax:(206) 667-1319 ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac