Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-23 Thread Gilberto Camara
Simon,

Excellent! Many thanks!  I used your command to fix the problem for the time 
being and also opened an issue for “torch” package maintainers: 

https://github.com/mlverse/torch/issues/1213


Your support is much appreciated.

Best
Gilberto

Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
Senior Researcher
Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
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> On 23 Nov 2024, at 04:44, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
> 
> Gilberto,
> 
> thanks! TLDR; its a bug in the torch package - fix below.
> 
> It took a while to sort out your example as it was very incomplete, here are 
> the full required steps:
> 
> ---
> ## sits doesn't install tests, so have the get them from sources:
> download.packages("sits", type='source')
> untar(Sys.glob("sits_*.tar.gz"))
> ## there are many other packages required for the tests
> install.packages(c("sits","torch","lwgeom","randomForest","gdalcubes","xgboost","devtools"))
> 
> ## also torch installation is incomplete so it requires additional downloads 
> on first load
> # (NB: this looks like a serious problem - does it mean torch bypasses CRAN 
> checks?)
> #> library(torch)
> # - Additional software needs to be downloaded and installed for torch to 
> work correctly.
> #Do you want to continue? (Yes/no/cancel) yes
> 
> devtools::test(“sits”)
> ---
> 
> But all of it is not necessary since the key is that the tests load both 
> data.table and torch so this is a more minimal example (based on one of the 
> sits tests):
> 
> library(data.table)
> library(sits)
> sits_tuning(samples_modis_ndvi,
>ml_method = sits_tempcnn(),
>params = sits_tuning_hparams(epochs = 10, optimizer = 
> torch::optim_adam,
>opt_hparams = list(lr = choice(0.01, 0.05, 0.001, 0.0005))),
>trials = 2,multicores = 1, progress = FALSE
> )
> 
> The use of data.table is just an example, any OpenMP-enabled package will 
> trigger the bug. As the error you sent indicated the problem is the 
> incompatibility of the run-time used by torch. If you use any R package with 
> OpenMP support (which loads the official OpenMP run-time - in above example 
> it is data.table) and then run torch afterwards, torch will fail, because it 
> loads its private OpenMP run-time which is incompatible. This is precisely 
> why we provide a common run-time and torch fails to use it so I would 
> recommend filing a bug report with the torch package. It is easily fixed with 
> something like
> 
> system(
>  paste("ln","-sfn",shQuote(file.path(R.home(),"lib","libomp.dylib")),
>  shQuote(system.file("lib","libiomp5.dylib",package="torch"
> 
> to point torch to the common run-time which guarantees compatibility between 
> packages. After that fix torch and the above example works again.
> 
> The current torch setup is really bad by design, because it essentially means 
> that no one may use OpenMP as it will always clash with its private library 
> (since no one else can use it). Even though it may not bite many people now 
> given the sequence of packages involved, if we decided to enable OpenMP in 
> CRAN build of R then torch won't work at all until this is fixed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2024, at 5:36 PM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Simon 
>> 
>> I understand your responses and your point. I hope you'll be able to 
>> understand my problem. It is hard to provide a simple working example, since 
>> we need to find a case where a package loads an OpenMP library that 
>> conflicts with the OpenMP library loaded by R. 
>> 
>> Replicating the problems I'm facing can be done by following the same 
>> actions I did. Please run the following commands on an R terminal to get the 
>> same error as we have using version R-4.4.2
>> 
>> == r code
>> % install.packages(“sits”)
>> % devtools::test(“sits”)
>> === 
>> 
>> You should get the same error as I do. 
>> 
>> As I stated earlier, there is a conflict between “libomp.dylib" loaded in 
>> the R core libraries and the "libiomp5.dylib" loaded by the “torch” package. 
>>  Since our package (“sits”) uses the torch package,  I did the following 
>> experiment: (a) removed “libomp.dylib” from the R core libraries;  and (b) 
>> ran the same two lines above. Everything works. 
>> 
>> Meanwhile, I will try to produce an MWE that does not need to use the “sits” 
>> package. 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> 
>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>> Senior Researcher
>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>> =
>> 
>> 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Simon Urbanek
Gilberto,

thanks! TLDR; its a bug in the torch package - fix below.

It took a while to sort out your example as it was very incomplete, here are 
the full required steps:

---
## sits doesn't install tests, so have the get them from sources:
download.packages("sits", type='source')
untar(Sys.glob("sits_*.tar.gz"))
## there are many other packages required for the tests
install.packages(c("sits","torch","lwgeom","randomForest","gdalcubes","xgboost","devtools"))

## also torch installation is incomplete so it requires additional downloads on 
first load
# (NB: this looks like a serious problem - does it mean torch bypasses CRAN 
checks?)
#> library(torch)
# - Additional software needs to be downloaded and installed for torch to work 
correctly.
#Do you want to continue? (Yes/no/cancel) yes

devtools::test(“sits”)
---

But all of it is not necessary since the key is that the tests load both 
data.table and torch so this is a more minimal example (based on one of the 
sits tests):

library(data.table)
library(sits)
sits_tuning(samples_modis_ndvi,
ml_method = sits_tempcnn(),
params = sits_tuning_hparams(epochs = 10, optimizer = torch::optim_adam,
opt_hparams = list(lr = choice(0.01, 0.05, 0.001, 0.0005))),
trials = 2,multicores = 1, progress = FALSE
)

The use of data.table is just an example, any OpenMP-enabled package will 
trigger the bug. As the error you sent indicated the problem is the 
incompatibility of the run-time used by torch. If you use any R package with 
OpenMP support (which loads the official OpenMP run-time - in above example it 
is data.table) and then run torch afterwards, torch will fail, because it loads 
its private OpenMP run-time which is incompatible. This is precisely why we 
provide a common run-time and torch fails to use it so I would recommend filing 
a bug report with the torch package. It is easily fixed with something like

system(
  paste("ln","-sfn",shQuote(file.path(R.home(),"lib","libomp.dylib")),
  shQuote(system.file("lib","libiomp5.dylib",package="torch"

to point torch to the common run-time which guarantees compatibility between 
packages. After that fix torch and the above example works again.

The current torch setup is really bad by design, because it essentially means 
that no one may use OpenMP as it will always clash with its private library 
(since no one else can use it). Even though it may not bite many people now 
given the sequence of packages involved, if we decided to enable OpenMP in CRAN 
build of R then torch won't work at all until this is fixed.

Cheers,
Simon


> On Nov 23, 2024, at 5:36 PM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
> 
> Dear Simon 
> 
> I understand your responses and your point. I hope you'll be able to 
> understand my problem. It is hard to provide a simple working example, since 
> we need to find a case where a package loads an OpenMP library that conflicts 
> with the OpenMP library loaded by R. 
> 
> Replicating the problems I'm facing can be done by following the same actions 
> I did. Please run the following commands on an R terminal to get the same 
> error as we have using version R-4.4.2
> 
> == r code
> % install.packages(“sits”)
> % devtools::test(“sits”)
> === 
> 
> You should get the same error as I do. 
> 
> As I stated earlier, there is a conflict between “libomp.dylib" loaded in the 
> R core libraries and the "libiomp5.dylib" loaded by the “torch” package.  
> Since our package (“sits”) uses the torch package,  I did the following 
> experiment: (a) removed “libomp.dylib” from the R core libraries;  and (b) 
> ran the same two lines above. Everything works. 
> 
> Meanwhile, I will try to produce an MWE that does not need to use the “sits” 
> package. 
> 
> Best regards
> Gilberto
> 
> 
> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
> Senior Researcher
> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
> https://gilbertocamara.org/
> =
> 
> 

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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear Simon 

I understand your responses and your point. I hope you'll be able to understand 
my problem. It is hard to provide a simple working example, since we need to 
find a case where a package loads an OpenMP library that conflicts with the 
OpenMP library loaded by R. 

Replicating the problems I'm facing can be done by following the same actions I 
did. Please run the following commands on an R terminal to get the same error 
as we have using version R-4.4.2

== r code
% install.packages(“sits”)
% devtools::test(“sits”)
=== 

You should get the same error as I do. 

As I stated earlier, there is a conflict between “libomp.dylib" loaded in the R 
core libraries and the "libiomp5.dylib" loaded by the “torch” package.  Since 
our package (“sits”) uses the torch package,  I did the following experiment: 
(a) removed “libomp.dylib” from the R core libraries;  and (b) ran the same two 
lines above. Everything works. 

Meanwhile, I will try to produce an MWE that does not need to use the “sits” 
package. 

Best regards
Gilberto


Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
Senior Researcher
Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
=





> On 22 Nov 2024, at 20:54, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
> 
> Gilberto,
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:40 PM, Gilberto Camara  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Simon 
>> 
>> You state that “R  itself doesn't load OpenMP”. So why is libomp.dylib 
>> loaded in core libraries of R-4.4.2 for Mac? 
>> 
> 
> It is not loaded - you can check yourself:
> 
> echo '' | R CMD sh -c 'DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 $R_HOME/bin/exec/R' 2>&1 | grep 
> libomp
> 
> 
>> Please see the contents of the core R libaries for R-4.2 and R-4.4.2 in my 
>> MacOS. In both cases, these are downloads straight from CRAN. 
>> 
>> Why has libomp.dylib been included in the R core libraries? 
>> 
> 
> 
> We simply distribute it as a convenience, because some packages (like 
> data.table) benefit hugely from OpenMP so by providing a fixed location it 
> allows them to avoid shipping it separately and they all can use one shared 
> version. See also https://mac.r-project.org/openmp/ for details
> 
> But as noted, I don't think this has anything to do with your problem 
> precisely because it is not loaded by R itself.
> 
> As I said before I would appreciate is you avoided random speculations (there 
> are many changes between R 4.2 and 4.4 especially in the packages between the 
> two versions) as that is not productive, but instead share a reproducible 
> example that we can look at. Any discussion is entirely pointless until you 
> do that.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
>> Best regards
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> R 4.2 
>> 
>> 
>> ❯ ls -lha /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib
>> total 19976
>> drwxrwxr-x  15 root  admin   480B 22 Nov 15:28 .
>> drwxrwxr-x  18 root  admin   576B 22 Nov 15:28 ..
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   4,0M 17 Mar  2023 libR.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libR.dylib.dSYM
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   221K 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.0.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.0.dylib.dSYM
>> lrwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin16B 22 Nov 15:28 libRblas.dylib -> 
>> libRblas.0.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.dylib.dSYM
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   151K 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.vecLib.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.vecLib.dylib.dSYM
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,2M 17 Mar  2023 libRlapack.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRlapack.dylib.dSYM
>> -rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin   157K 17 Mar  2023 libgcc_s.1.dylib
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,7M 17 Mar  2023 libgfortran.5.dylib
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   302K 17 Mar  2023 libquadmath.0.dylib
>> 
>> 
>> R 4.4.2
>> 
>> 
>> ❯ ls -lha /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.4-x86_64/Resources/lib
>> total 27320
>> drwxrwxr-x  17 root  admin   544B 22 Nov 15:03 .
>> drwxrwxr-x  17 root  admin   544B 22 Nov 15:03 ..
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   5,3M 31 Out 22:15 libR.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libR.dylib.dSYM
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   238K 31 Out 22:15 libRblas.0.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.0.dylib.dSYM
>> lrwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin16B 22 Nov 15:03 libRblas.dylib -> 
>> libRblas.0.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.dylib.dSYM
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   151K 31 Out 22:15 libRblas.vecLib.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.vecLib.dylib.dSYM
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,3M 31 Out 22:15 libRlapack.dylib
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRlapack.dylib.dSYM
>> -rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin   183K 31 Out 22:15 libgcc_s.1.1.dylib
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   3,3M 31 Out 22:15 libgfortran.5.dylib
>> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   1,5M 31 Out 

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Simon Urbanek
Gilberto,


> On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:40 PM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
> 
> Dear Simon 
> 
> You state that “R  itself doesn't load OpenMP”. So why is libomp.dylib loaded 
> in core libraries of R-4.4.2 for Mac? 
> 

It is not loaded - you can check yourself:

echo '' | R CMD sh -c 'DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 $R_HOME/bin/exec/R' 2>&1 | grep 
libomp


> Please see the contents of the core R libaries for R-4.2 and R-4.4.2 in my 
> MacOS. In both cases, these are downloads straight from CRAN. 
> 
> Why has libomp.dylib been included in the R core libraries? 
> 


We simply distribute it as a convenience, because some packages (like 
data.table) benefit hugely from OpenMP so by providing a fixed location it 
allows them to avoid shipping it separately and they all can use one shared 
version. See also https://mac.r-project.org/openmp/ for details

But as noted, I don't think this has anything to do with your problem precisely 
because it is not loaded by R itself.

As I said before I would appreciate is you avoided random speculations (there 
are many changes between R 4.2 and 4.4 especially in the packages between the 
two versions) as that is not productive, but instead share a reproducible 
example that we can look at. Any discussion is entirely pointless until you do 
that.

Cheers,
Simon



> Best regards
> Gilberto
> 
> 
> 
> R 4.2 
> 
> 
> ❯ ls -lha /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib
> total 19976
> drwxrwxr-x  15 root  admin   480B 22 Nov 15:28 .
> drwxrwxr-x  18 root  admin   576B 22 Nov 15:28 ..
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   4,0M 17 Mar  2023 libR.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libR.dylib.dSYM
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   221K 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.0.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.0.dylib.dSYM
> lrwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin16B 22 Nov 15:28 libRblas.dylib -> 
> libRblas.0.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.dylib.dSYM
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   151K 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.vecLib.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.vecLib.dylib.dSYM
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,2M 17 Mar  2023 libRlapack.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRlapack.dylib.dSYM
> -rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin   157K 17 Mar  2023 libgcc_s.1.dylib
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,7M 17 Mar  2023 libgfortran.5.dylib
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   302K 17 Mar  2023 libquadmath.0.dylib
> 
> 
> R 4.4.2
> 
> 
> ❯ ls -lha /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.4-x86_64/Resources/lib
> total 27320
> drwxrwxr-x  17 root  admin   544B 22 Nov 15:03 .
> drwxrwxr-x  17 root  admin   544B 22 Nov 15:03 ..
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   5,3M 31 Out 22:15 libR.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libR.dylib.dSYM
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   238K 31 Out 22:15 libRblas.0.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.0.dylib.dSYM
> lrwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin16B 22 Nov 15:03 libRblas.dylib -> 
> libRblas.0.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.dylib.dSYM
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   151K 31 Out 22:15 libRblas.vecLib.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.vecLib.dylib.dSYM
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,3M 31 Out 22:15 libRlapack.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRlapack.dylib.dSYM
> -rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin   183K 31 Out 22:15 libgcc_s.1.1.dylib
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   3,3M 31 Out 22:15 libgfortran.5.dylib
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   1,5M 31 Out 22:15 libomp.dylib
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   376K 31 Out 22:15 libquadmath.0.dylib
> drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:11 pkgconfig
> 
> 
> 
> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
> Senior Researcher
> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
> https://gilbertocamara.org/
> =
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 Nov 2024, at 19:48, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
>> 
>> Gilberto,
>> 
>> you still didn't provide any useful examples, and all you have are baseless 
>> speculations. R itself doesn't load OpenMP, so the problem could very well 
>> be in the other software or libraries you use - it may have nothing to do 
>> with R, but without an example we can neither tell nor help. Based on this 
>> there is nothing to solve "at the highest level of R core developers for 
>> Mac" - it has to start with you providing a working example as no one else 
>> has that problem.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2024, at 7:30 AM, Gilberto Camara  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Peter and Simon 
>>> 
>>> I may have found the cause of the crashes in R-4.4.2 in the Intel MacOs 
>>> environment. In R-4.4.2 for MacOS, the “libomp.dylib” is loaded from the 
>>> CRAN version. Comparing with earlier version, this is a new addition to the 
>>> core R libraries. The OpenMP library is not provided in R-4.2. 
>>> 
>>> It so happens that the “torch” package is 

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear Simon 

You state that “R  itself doesn't load OpenMP”. So why is libomp.dylib loaded 
in core libraries of R-4.4.2 for Mac? 

Please see the contents of the core R libaries for R-4.2 and R-4.4.2 in my 
MacOS. In both cases, these are downloads straight from CRAN. 

Why has libomp.dylib been included in the R core libraries? 

Best regards
Gilberto



R 4.2 


❯ ls -lha /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.2/Resources/lib
total 19976
drwxrwxr-x  15 root  admin   480B 22 Nov 15:28 .
drwxrwxr-x  18 root  admin   576B 22 Nov 15:28 ..
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   4,0M 17 Mar  2023 libR.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libR.dylib.dSYM
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   221K 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.0.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.0.dylib.dSYM
lrwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin16B 22 Nov 15:28 libRblas.dylib -> 
libRblas.0.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.dylib.dSYM
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   151K 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.vecLib.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRblas.vecLib.dylib.dSYM
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,2M 17 Mar  2023 libRlapack.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 17 Mar  2023 libRlapack.dylib.dSYM
-rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin   157K 17 Mar  2023 libgcc_s.1.dylib
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,7M 17 Mar  2023 libgfortran.5.dylib
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   302K 17 Mar  2023 libquadmath.0.dylib


R 4.4.2


❯ ls -lha /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.4-x86_64/Resources/lib
total 27320
drwxrwxr-x  17 root  admin   544B 22 Nov 15:03 .
drwxrwxr-x  17 root  admin   544B 22 Nov 15:03 ..
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   5,3M 31 Out 22:15 libR.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libR.dylib.dSYM
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   238K 31 Out 22:15 libRblas.0.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.0.dylib.dSYM
lrwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin16B 22 Nov 15:03 libRblas.dylib -> 
libRblas.0.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.dylib.dSYM
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   151K 31 Out 22:15 libRblas.vecLib.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRblas.vecLib.dylib.dSYM
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   2,3M 31 Out 22:15 libRlapack.dylib
drwxrwxr-x   3 root  admin96B 31 Out 22:14 libRlapack.dylib.dSYM
-rw-rw-r--   1 root  admin   183K 31 Out 22:15 libgcc_s.1.1.dylib
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   3,3M 31 Out 22:15 libgfortran.5.dylib
-rwxrwxr-x   1 root  admin   1,5M 31 Out 22:15 libomp.dylib
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National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
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> On 22 Nov 2024, at 19:48, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
> 
> Gilberto,
> 
> you still didn't provide any useful examples, and all you have are baseless 
> speculations. R itself doesn't load OpenMP, so the problem could very well be 
> in the other software or libraries you use - it may have nothing to do with 
> R, but without an example we can neither tell nor help. Based on this there 
> is nothing to solve "at the highest level of R core developers for Mac" - it 
> has to start with you providing a working example as no one else has that 
> problem.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2024, at 7:30 AM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Peter and Simon 
>> 
>> I may have found the cause of the crashes in R-4.4.2 in the Intel MacOs 
>> environment. In R-4.4.2 for MacOS, the “libomp.dylib” is loaded from the 
>> CRAN version. Comparing with earlier version, this is a new addition to the 
>> core R libraries. The OpenMP library is not provided in R-4.2. 
>> 
>> It so happens that the “torch” package is also including the an OpenMP 
>> library (“libiomp5.dylib”) which is causing the crash. In previous R 
>> versions, this behavoir did not cause problems, since R did not provide the 
>> OpenMP library by default. 
>> 
>> Thus, the problem needs to be solved at the highest level of R core 
>> developers for Mac. Please bear in mind that the “torch” package is 
>> essential for running deep learning algorithms in R. I hope you can find a 
>> solution that preserves the use of “torch” in R. I am copying the message to 
>> Daniel Falbel, who is the maintainer of the “torch” package.
>> 
>> Your support in solving this problem is highly appreciated.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>> Senior Researcher
>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>> =
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Nov 2024, at 14:18, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Peter
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for your help. I ran R in a terminal, something I admit I had 
>>> not done before.
>>> 
>>> It 

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Simon Urbanek
Gilberto,

you still didn't provide any useful examples, and all you have are baseless 
speculations. R itself doesn't load OpenMP, so the problem could very well be 
in the other software or libraries you use - it may have nothing to do with R, 
but without an example we can neither tell nor help. Based on this there is 
nothing to solve "at the highest level of R core developers for Mac" - it has 
to start with you providing a working example as no one else has that problem.

Cheers,
Simon


> On Nov 23, 2024, at 7:30 AM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
> 
> Dear Peter and Simon 
> 
> I may have found the cause of the crashes in R-4.4.2 in the Intel MacOs 
> environment. In R-4.4.2 for MacOS, the “libomp.dylib” is loaded from the CRAN 
> version. Comparing with earlier version, this is a new addition to the core R 
> libraries. The OpenMP library is not provided in R-4.2. 
> 
> It so happens that the “torch” package is also including the an OpenMP 
> library (“libiomp5.dylib”) which is causing the crash. In previous R 
> versions, this behavoir did not cause problems, since R did not provide the 
> OpenMP library by default. 
> 
> Thus, the problem needs to be solved at the highest level of R core 
> developers for Mac. Please bear in mind that the “torch” package is essential 
> for running deep learning algorithms in R. I hope you can find a solution 
> that preserves the use of “torch” in R. I am copying the message to Daniel 
> Falbel, who is the maintainer of the “torch” package.
> 
> Your support in solving this problem is highly appreciated.
> 
> Best regards
> Gilberto
> 
> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
> Senior Researcher
> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
> https://gilbertocamara.org/
> =
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 Nov 2024, at 14:18, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Peter
>> 
>> Many thanks for your help. I ran R in a terminal, something I admit I had 
>> not done before.
>> 
>> It crashed and produced the following message:
>> 
>> ===
>> OMP: Error #15: Initializing libiomp5.dylib, but found libomp.dylib already 
>> initialized.
>> OMP: Hint This means that multiple copies of the OpenMP runtime have been 
>> linked into the program. That is dangerous, since it can degrade performance 
>> or cause incorrect results. The best thing to do is to ensure that only a 
>> single OpenMP runtime is linked into the process, e.g. by avoiding static 
>> linking of the OpenMP runtime in any library. As an unsafe, unsupported, 
>> undocumented workaround you can set the environment variable 
>> KMP_DUPLICATE_LIB_OK=TRUE to allow the program to continue to execute, but 
>> that may cause crashes or silently produce incorrect results. For more 
>> information, please see http://www.intel.com/software/products/support/.
>> ===
>> 
>> I am using Rcpp Armadillo, and I am following its guidelines for C++ 
>> compilation. The “Makevars” file is produced by running 
>> 
>>> usethis::use_rcpp_armadillo()
>> 
>> which produces the following Makevars file:
>> 
>> PKG_CXXFLAGS = $(SHLIB_OPENMP_CXXFLAGS)
>> PKG_LIBS = $(SHLIB_OPENMP_CXXFLAGS) $(LAPACK_LIBS) $(BLAS_LIBS) $(FLIBS)
>> 
>> I removed the Makevars file, compiled my package from scratch but the error 
>> continues. Any help on how to solve this problem would be most appreciated. 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> 
>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>> Senior Researcher
>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>> =
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Nov 2024, at 12:08, peter dalgaard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple of questions:
>>> 
>>> - Is it the GUI or R itself that crashes? (i.e, can you run  R in Terminal 
>>> an still crash it? or even RStudio?)
>>> - Is it a Sequoia issue as such? I'm not seeing issues on Monterey/4.4.1 
>>> (I'm a little superstitious about upgrading production machines 
>>> mid-semester and some of my machines are too old for Sequoia.) The source 
>>> tarballs 4.4.2 were built and tested on Intel/Monterey.
>>> 
>>> - pd
>>> 
 On 21 Nov 2024, at 16:07 , Gilberto Camara  wrote:
 
 Dear Simon 
 
 Since your message last week, I have been trying to reproduce the errors I 
 am finding with R-4.4.2 in an Intel MacMini to build a minimum testable 
 example. I am not succeeding in doing so.
 
 The error is a total collapse of R and occurs in a random fashion. 
 Sometimes calling another package (e.g. “xgboost”) produces the error. 
 Sometimes making a simple operation in a data table leads to error. 
 
 The problem affects only Intel-based MacMinis with R-4.4.2. Running 
 MacMinis with R-4.2.3 work will. All is also well with R-4.4.2 in Macs 
 with ARM, in Windows and in Lunix/Ubuntu and Linux/Fedora. 
 
 One issue I noticed is that the default C++ compiler in 

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear Peter and Simon 

I may have found the cause of the crashes in R-4.4.2 in the Intel MacOs 
environment. In R-4.4.2 for MacOS, the “libomp.dylib” is loaded from the CRAN 
version. Comparing with earlier version, this is a new addition to the core R 
libraries. The OpenMP library is not provided in R-4.2. 

It so happens that the “torch” package is also including the an OpenMP library 
(“libiomp5.dylib”) which is causing the crash. In previous R versions, this 
behavoir did not cause problems, since R did not provide the OpenMP library by 
default. 

Thus, the problem needs to be solved at the highest level of R core developers 
for Mac. Please bear in mind that the “torch” package is essential for running 
deep learning algorithms in R. I hope you can find a solution that preserves 
the use of “torch” in R. I am copying the message to Daniel Falbel, who is the 
maintainer of the “torch” package.

Your support in solving this problem is highly appreciated.

Best regards
Gilberto

Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
Senior Researcher
Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
=





> On 22 Nov 2024, at 14:18, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
> 
> Dear Peter
> 
> Many thanks for your help. I ran R in a terminal, something I admit I had not 
> done before.
> 
> It crashed and produced the following message:
> 
> ===
> OMP: Error #15: Initializing libiomp5.dylib, but found libomp.dylib already 
> initialized.
> OMP: Hint This means that multiple copies of the OpenMP runtime have been 
> linked into the program. That is dangerous, since it can degrade performance 
> or cause incorrect results. The best thing to do is to ensure that only a 
> single OpenMP runtime is linked into the process, e.g. by avoiding static 
> linking of the OpenMP runtime in any library. As an unsafe, unsupported, 
> undocumented workaround you can set the environment variable 
> KMP_DUPLICATE_LIB_OK=TRUE to allow the program to continue to execute, but 
> that may cause crashes or silently produce incorrect results. For more 
> information, please see http://www.intel.com/software/products/support/.
> ===
> 
> I am using Rcpp Armadillo, and I am following its guidelines for C++ 
> compilation. The “Makevars” file is produced by running 
> 
>> usethis::use_rcpp_armadillo()
> 
> which produces the following Makevars file:
> 
> PKG_CXXFLAGS = $(SHLIB_OPENMP_CXXFLAGS)
> PKG_LIBS = $(SHLIB_OPENMP_CXXFLAGS) $(LAPACK_LIBS) $(BLAS_LIBS) $(FLIBS)
> 
> I removed the Makevars file, compiled my package from scratch but the error 
> continues. Any help on how to solve this problem would be most appreciated. 
> 
> Best regards
> Gilberto
> 
> 
> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
> Senior Researcher
> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
> https://gilbertocamara.org/
> =
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 Nov 2024, at 12:08, peter dalgaard  wrote:
>> 
>> A couple of questions:
>> 
>> - Is it the GUI or R itself that crashes? (i.e, can you run  R in Terminal 
>> an still crash it? or even RStudio?)
>> - Is it a Sequoia issue as such? I'm not seeing issues on Monterey/4.4.1 
>> (I'm a little superstitious about upgrading production machines mid-semester 
>> and some of my machines are too old for Sequoia.) The source tarballs 4.4.2 
>> were built and tested on Intel/Monterey.
>> 
>> - pd
>> 
>>> On 21 Nov 2024, at 16:07 , Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Simon 
>>> 
>>> Since your message last week, I have been trying to reproduce the errors I 
>>> am finding with R-4.4.2 in an Intel MacMini to build a minimum testable 
>>> example. I am not succeeding in doing so.
>>> 
>>> The error is a total collapse of R and occurs in a random fashion. 
>>> Sometimes calling another package (e.g. “xgboost”) produces the error. 
>>> Sometimes making a simple operation in a data table leads to error. 
>>> 
>>> The problem affects only Intel-based MacMinis with R-4.4.2. Running 
>>> MacMinis with R-4.2.3 work will. All is also well with R-4.4.2 in Macs with 
>>> ARM, in Windows and in Lunix/Ubuntu and Linux/Fedora. 
>>> 
>>> One issue I noticed is that the default C++ compiler in MacOS Sequoia is 
>>> compatible with c++-17, while the one used by CRAN is version c++-14.00.
>>> 
>>> Do you have any ideas on how to proceed? Any test data set I could use? 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks 
>>> Gilberto
>>> 
>>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>>> Senior Researcher
>>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>>> =
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Nov 2024, at 18:53, Simon Urbanek  
 wrote:
 
 Gilberto,
 
 please read https://www.r-project.org/bugs.html first, in particular about 
 how to report a problem. Just saying "cannot execute 

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear Peter

Many thanks for your help. I ran R in a terminal, something I admit I had not 
done before.

It crashed and produced the following message:

===
OMP: Error #15: Initializing libiomp5.dylib, but found libomp.dylib already 
initialized.
OMP: Hint This means that multiple copies of the OpenMP runtime have been 
linked into the program. That is dangerous, since it can degrade performance or 
cause incorrect results. The best thing to do is to ensure that only a single 
OpenMP runtime is linked into the process, e.g. by avoiding static linking of 
the OpenMP runtime in any library. As an unsafe, unsupported, undocumented 
workaround you can set the environment variable KMP_DUPLICATE_LIB_OK=TRUE to 
allow the program to continue to execute, but that may cause crashes or 
silently produce incorrect results. For more information, please see 
http://www.intel.com/software/products/support/.
===

I am using Rcpp Armadillo, and I am following its guidelines for C++ 
compilation. The “Makevars” file is produced by running 

>usethis::use_rcpp_armadillo()

which produces the following Makevars file:

PKG_CXXFLAGS = $(SHLIB_OPENMP_CXXFLAGS)
PKG_LIBS = $(SHLIB_OPENMP_CXXFLAGS) $(LAPACK_LIBS) $(BLAS_LIBS) $(FLIBS)

I removed the Makevars file, compiled my package from scratch but the error 
continues. Any help on how to solve this problem would be most appreciated. 

Best regards
Gilberto


Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
Senior Researcher
Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
=





> On 22 Nov 2024, at 12:08, peter dalgaard  wrote:
> 
> A couple of questions:
> 
> - Is it the GUI or R itself that crashes? (i.e, can you run  R in Terminal an 
> still crash it? or even RStudio?)
> - Is it a Sequoia issue as such? I'm not seeing issues on Monterey/4.4.1 (I'm 
> a little superstitious about upgrading production machines mid-semester and 
> some of my machines are too old for Sequoia.) The source tarballs 4.4.2 were 
> built and tested on Intel/Monterey.
> 
> - pd
> 
>> On 21 Nov 2024, at 16:07 , Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Simon 
>> 
>> Since your message last week, I have been trying to reproduce the errors I 
>> am finding with R-4.4.2 in an Intel MacMini to build a minimum testable 
>> example. I am not succeeding in doing so.
>> 
>> The error is a total collapse of R and occurs in a random fashion. Sometimes 
>> calling another package (e.g. “xgboost”) produces the error. Sometimes 
>> making a simple operation in a data table leads to error. 
>> 
>> The problem affects only Intel-based MacMinis with R-4.4.2. Running MacMinis 
>> with R-4.2.3 work will. All is also well with R-4.4.2 in Macs with ARM, in 
>> Windows and in Lunix/Ubuntu and Linux/Fedora. 
>> 
>> One issue I noticed is that the default C++ compiler in MacOS Sequoia is 
>> compatible with c++-17, while the one used by CRAN is version c++-14.00.
>> 
>> Do you have any ideas on how to proceed? Any test data set I could use? 
>> 
>> Many thanks 
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>> Senior Researcher
>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>> =
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Nov 2024, at 18:53, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gilberto,
>>> 
>>> please read https://www.r-project.org/bugs.html first, in particular about 
>>> how to report a problem. Just saying "cannot execute my scripts" is not 
>>> helpful at all - please provide exact output, how it differs between the 
>>> versions etc. For example, the problem may be in your code or packages used 
>>> - we have no way of knowing without the necessary additional information.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 13, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Gilberto Camara  
 wrote:
 
 Dear R-SIG-MAC
 
 I have problems with R-4.4.2 in the latest Mac OS Sequoia (15.1) version 
 in a Mac mini with an Intel chip. R-4.4.2 cannot execute my scripts. No 
 such problems occur with R-4.4.2 in MacBook with ARM chip. 
 
 I went back to R-4.2.3 and all is well in my environment (MacMini, Intel, 
 MacOS X 15.1). 
 
 
 I will try to provide an MWE to help those of you who know a lot about Mac 
 OS X.
 
 Best
 Gilberto
 
 
 Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
 Senior Researcher
 Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
 National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
 https://gilbertocamara.org/
 =
 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-22 Thread peter dalgaard
A couple of questions:

- Is it the GUI or R itself that crashes? (i.e, can you run  R in Terminal an 
still crash it? or even RStudio?)
- Is it a Sequoia issue as such? I'm not seeing issues on Monterey/4.4.1 (I'm a 
little superstitious about upgrading production machines mid-semester and some 
of my machines are too old for Sequoia.) The source tarballs 4.4.2 were built 
and tested on Intel/Monterey.

- pd

> On 21 Nov 2024, at 16:07 , Gilberto Camara  wrote:
> 
> Dear Simon 
> 
> Since your message last week, I have been trying to reproduce the errors I am 
> finding with R-4.4.2 in an Intel MacMini to build a minimum testable example. 
> I am not succeeding in doing so.
> 
> The error is a total collapse of R and occurs in a random fashion. Sometimes 
> calling another package (e.g. “xgboost”) produces the error. Sometimes making 
> a simple operation in a data table leads to error. 
> 
> The problem affects only Intel-based MacMinis with R-4.4.2. Running MacMinis 
> with R-4.2.3 work will. All is also well with R-4.4.2 in Macs with ARM, in 
> Windows and in Lunix/Ubuntu and Linux/Fedora. 
> 
> One issue I noticed is that the default C++ compiler in MacOS Sequoia is 
> compatible with c++-17, while the one used by CRAN is version c++-14.00.
> 
> Do you have any ideas on how to proceed? Any test data set I could use? 
> 
> Many thanks 
> Gilberto
> 
> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
> Senior Researcher
> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
> https://gilbertocamara.org/
> =
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Nov 2024, at 18:53, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
>> 
>> Gilberto,
>> 
>> please read https://www.r-project.org/bugs.html first, in particular about 
>> how to report a problem. Just saying "cannot execute my scripts" is not 
>> helpful at all - please provide exact output, how it differs between the 
>> versions etc. For example, the problem may be in your code or packages used 
>> - we have no way of knowing without the necessary additional information.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Gilberto Camara  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear R-SIG-MAC
>>> 
>>> I have problems with R-4.4.2 in the latest Mac OS Sequoia (15.1) version in 
>>> a Mac mini with an Intel chip. R-4.4.2 cannot execute my scripts. No such 
>>> problems occur with R-4.4.2 in MacBook with ARM chip. 
>>> 
>>> I went back to R-4.2.3 and all is well in my environment (MacMini, Intel, 
>>> MacOS X 15.1). 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will try to provide an MWE to help those of you who know a lot about Mac 
>>> OS X.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> Gilberto
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>>> Senior Researcher
>>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>>> =
>>> 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-21 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear Simon 

Since your message last week, I have been trying to reproduce the errors I am 
finding with R-4.4.2 in an Intel MacMini to build a minimum testable example. I 
am not succeeding in doing so.

The error is a total collapse of R and occurs in a random fashion. Sometimes 
calling another package (e.g. “xgboost”) produces the error. Sometimes making a 
simple operation in a data table leads to error. 

The problem affects only Intel-based MacMinis with R-4.4.2. Running MacMinis 
with R-4.2.3 work will. All is also well with R-4.4.2 in Macs with ARM, in 
Windows and in Lunix/Ubuntu and Linux/Fedora. 

One issue I noticed is that the default C++ compiler in MacOS Sequoia is 
compatible with c++-17, while the one used by CRAN is version c++-14.00.

Do you have any ideas on how to proceed? Any test data set I could use? 

Many thanks 
Gilberto

Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
Senior Researcher
Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
=





> On 12 Nov 2024, at 18:53, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
> 
> Gilberto,
> 
> please read https://www.r-project.org/bugs.html first, in particular about 
> how to report a problem. Just saying "cannot execute my scripts" is not 
> helpful at all - please provide exact output, how it differs between the 
> versions etc. For example, the problem may be in your code or packages used - 
> we have no way of knowing without the necessary additional information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Simon
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear R-SIG-MAC
>> 
>> I have problems with R-4.4.2 in the latest Mac OS Sequoia (15.1) version in 
>> a Mac mini with an Intel chip. R-4.4.2 cannot execute my scripts. No such 
>> problems occur with R-4.4.2 in MacBook with ARM chip. 
>> 
>> I went back to R-4.2.3 and all is well in my environment (MacMini, Intel, 
>> MacOS X 15.1). 
>> 
>> 
>> I will try to provide an MWE to help those of you who know a lot about Mac 
>> OS X.
>> 
>> Best
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> 
>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>> Senior Researcher
>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>> =
>> 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-12 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear Simon 

Thanks! Point taken!

Best
Gilberto

Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
Senior Researcher
Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
https://gilbertocamara.org/
=





> On 12 Nov 2024, at 18:53, Simon Urbanek  wrote:
> 
> Gilberto,
> 
> please read https://www.r-project.org/bugs.html first, in particular about 
> how to report a problem. Just saying "cannot execute my scripts" is not 
> helpful at all - please provide exact output, how it differs between the 
> versions etc. For example, the problem may be in your code or packages used - 
> we have no way of knowing without the necessary additional information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Simon
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear R-SIG-MAC
>> 
>> I have problems with R-4.4.2 in the latest Mac OS Sequoia (15.1) version in 
>> a Mac mini with an Intel chip. R-4.4.2 cannot execute my scripts. No such 
>> problems occur with R-4.4.2 in MacBook with ARM chip. 
>> 
>> I went back to R-4.2.3 and all is well in my environment (MacMini, Intel, 
>> MacOS X 15.1). 
>> 
>> 
>> I will try to provide an MWE to help those of you who know a lot about Mac 
>> OS X.
>> 
>> Best
>> Gilberto
>> 
>> 
>> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
>> Senior Researcher
>> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
>> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
>> https://gilbertocamara.org/
>> =
>> 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problems with R-4.4.2 in MacOS Sequoia with Intel chip

2024-11-12 Thread Simon Urbanek
Gilberto,

please read https://www.r-project.org/bugs.html first, in particular about how 
to report a problem. Just saying "cannot execute my scripts" is not helpful at 
all - please provide exact output, how it differs between the versions etc. For 
example, the problem may be in your code or packages used - we have no way of 
knowing without the necessary additional information.

Thanks,
Simon


> On Nov 13, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Gilberto Camara  wrote:
> 
> Dear R-SIG-MAC
> 
> I have problems with R-4.4.2 in the latest Mac OS Sequoia (15.1) version in a 
> Mac mini with an Intel chip. R-4.4.2 cannot execute my scripts. No such 
> problems occur with R-4.4.2 in MacBook with ARM chip. 
> 
> I went back to R-4.2.3 and all is well in my environment (MacMini, Intel, 
> MacOS X 15.1). 
> 
> 
> I will try to provide an MWE to help those of you who know a lot about Mac OS 
> X.
> 
> Best
> Gilberto
> 
> 
> Prof Dr Gilberto Camara
> Senior Researcher
> Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV)
> National Institute for Space Research (INPE), Brazil
> https://gilbertocamara.org/
> =
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