Re: [R-sig-phylo] PGLS, polytomies, degrees of freedom and multiple specimens

2011-02-22 Thread tgarland
iam J. Revell" Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] PGLS, polytomies, degrees of freedom and multiple specimens To: Popko Wiersma Cc: r-sig-phylo@r-project.org >Hi Popko, > >My sense is that if the polytomy is hard, it is never necessary to >subtract a deg

Re: [R-sig-phylo] PGLS, polytomies, degrees of freedom and multiple specimens

2011-02-22 Thread Enrico Rezende
Hi Popko, Liam is correct. Answering the second question, I presume your polytomies involve multiple specimens (individuals) of the same species, is that right? If so, you do not need to correct for soft politomies; instead, you may partition the variation within/between species as discussed i

Re: [R-sig-phylo] PGLS, polytomies, degrees of freedom and multiple specimens

2011-02-22 Thread Liam J. Revell
Hi Popko, My sense is that if the polytomy is hard, it is never necessary to subtract a degree of freedom. If the polytomy is "firm" (sensu Purvis & Garland 1993) - in that the true tree is fully bifurcating but we cannot resolve a multifurcating node due primarily to rapid divergence of the

[R-sig-phylo] PGLS, polytomies, degrees of freedom and multiple specimens

2011-02-22 Thread Popko Wiersma
Dear all, Can somebody tell whether one should subtract degrees of freedom when applying PGLS with a phylogeny containing soft polytomies? And does it make a difference if polytomies originate from data from multiple specimens of species? cheers, Popko Wiersma - I reposted this message beca