Re: [R-sig-phylo] asymmetric transitions

2012-08-17 Thread Jarrod Hadfield
Hi, Thanks for the Allman Rhodes paper, it is very nice. For me at least it confirms my suspicions, but made me realise that claims of asymmetric transition rates are only suspicious if you are unprepared to make some (strong?) assumptions. If anyone disagrees with what I have written

Re: [R-sig-phylo] asymmetric transitions

2012-08-17 Thread Dan Rabosky
Hi folks- I still think there is a difference between (i) parameter identifiability, which may or may not be a problem here, and (ii) strong support for the wrong model, which clearly appears to be occurring here (e.g., Type I error rates 0.75). I don't think non-identifiability of a

Re: [R-sig-phylo] asymmetric transitions

2012-08-17 Thread Mark Holder
Hi all, I brought up the non-identifiability of the rich forms of the covarion model only because that is the source for my intuition that it will be really hard to distinguish the 1-binary-character threshold from the covarion. I agree with Dan, that the non-identifiability is not causing

Re: [R-sig-phylo] asymmetric transitions

2012-08-17 Thread Jarrod Hadfield
Hi, I see the problem: the threshold model is symmetric but NOT in the sense used in the ARD model. In the threshold model it is natural to think about evolution of the probabilty of being in one state versus the other. If the probability at the root was 0.2 and evolution was very slow

[R-sig-phylo] Literature about multigene phylogenetic

2012-08-17 Thread Augusto Ribas
Hello. I'm new on phylogenetics and i find it hard understand how to do a phylogenetic tree with more than one gene (sequence). For example, i was reading A large-scale phylogeny of Amphibia including over 2800 species, and a revised classification of extant frogs, salamanders, and caecilians

[R-sig-phylo] Can PGLS cope with collinearity between explanatory variables?

2012-08-17 Thread Xu Han
Hi all, I am testing a correlation between two explanatory variables and a response variable using PGLS. All of the variables are continuous. My model is Log female body size ~ Log egg size * Log clutch size. However, there is a significant negative correlation between egg size and clutch

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Can PGLS cope with collinearity between explanatory variables?

2012-08-17 Thread Theodore Garland Jr
The issue of collinearity of independent variables is neither better nor worse with PGLS as opposed to OLS. Statistical significance per se of a correlation between X variables is not really the issue. How strong is the correlation? Most sources suggest that it needs to be greater than

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Can PGLS cope with collinearity between explanatory variables?

2012-08-17 Thread Xu Han
Thanks Dr. Garland,The correlation between egg size and clutch size is 0.3, and the variance inflation factors for both egg size and clutch size are smaller than 2. There shouldn't be a big problem of collinearity. Thanks for your clarification.Best,Xu From: theodore.garl...@ucr.edu To: