Re: [R-sig-phylo] diversification rates with two traits present simultaneously

Rich FitzJohn has programmed something of what Will suggested in diversitree: look at details in ?make.musse.multitrait. I'm not sure if there was ever a paper published on this. We do a similar thing to Will's idea in http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/283/1830/20152304 (with the

Re: [R-sig-phylo] diversification rates with two traits present simultaneously

Hello, Personally, I would advise you not to use a tree, for your 2 traits times 2 (+/-) makes 4 combinations, meaning a tree that is dichotomic cannot reveal anything! Can you quantify your "diversification" without "rate"? How do you obtain your "diversification rates"? If it is something

Re: [R-sig-phylo] diversification rates with two traits present simultaneously

I'm not sure of any particular methods that do this, but one preliminary approach that you could try is combining the two traits into a single trait (00, 01, 10, and 11) which you could then analyze with any of the standard methods. You could then look for whether any of the states have higher or

[R-sig-phylo] diversification rates with two traits present simultaneously

Hello, I am wondering what comparative method(s) is appropriate for testing if diversification rates are highest when two traits are present together, rather than one alone? Specifically, if I have two binary traits, let's say freshwater/marine and temperate/tropical, what is the best way to test

Re: [R-sig-phylo] diversification rates

Hi Willian and Nathan, Thanks a lot for your clarification! It is exactly what I was thinking about! Best, 2018-04-15 13:28 GMT-03:00 Upham, Nathan : > Yeah Lilian, Will is right— “ED” or “fair proportion" in the 2018 paper is > ~= “ES” as given in Redding and Mooers

Re: [R-sig-phylo] diversification rates

Yeah Lilian, Will is right— “ED” or “fair proportion" in the 2018 paper is ~= “ES” as given in Redding and Mooers 2006. 1/ES = DR is where the confusion comes from. DR has been called the “inverse equal splits metric”, so I think that was just an editing error for them to write: "This measure

Re: [R-sig-phylo] diversification rates

Hi Lilian, My understanding is that Jetz and Pyron 2018 use the fair proportion metric ('evolutionary distinctness'), which they they assert is closely inversely related to the equal splits metric (but not calculated in that way). Jetz et al 2012 use the species-level lineage diversification

[R-sig-phylo] diversification rates

Dear all, I am trying to compute the diversification rates as Jetz et al. 2012 ( https://www.nature.com/articles/nature11631), where the authors have said that the formula is the inverse of the equal splits distinctiveness value of Redding and Moors 2006 (