Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-04-09 Thread Geoffrey Knauth
Since from his first months learning Racket, my son Alex immediately started diving into the language-altering aspects of Racket, when you do develop a tutorial/pedagogy for that, you might see what reaction he has. On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:18:53 AM UTC-4, Matthias Felleisen wrote: On

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-04-09 Thread Alexis King
I think Greg Hendershott’s Fear of Macros http://www.greghendershott.com/fear-of-macros/ tutorial is pretty top-notch. Would it make any sense to adapt and incorporate that into the Racket docs? On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:28, Geoffrey Knauth ge...@knauth.org wrote: Since from his first months

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-27 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: A web site is an ad. As is a research paper. It's the audience that differs. I am sorry but you embrace modern CS departments too much, and there is push-back coming about. Don't bother me with papers that I can't reconstruct and accept after that

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-27 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: A web site is an ad. As is a research paper. It's the audience that differs. I am sorry but you embrace modern CS departments too much, and there is push-back coming about. Don't bother me with papers that I can't reconstruct and accept after that

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-27 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 27, 2015, at 4:11 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: Matthias Felleisen writes: A web site is an ad. As is a research paper. It's the audience that differs. I am sorry but you embrace modern CS departments too much, and there is push-back coming about. Don't bother me with papers that

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: Neil, I wrote this paper _because_ academia perceives Racket as a cult. Wow. I must be missing something interesting. Is there some tutorial on the Rites of Racket? ;-) I am in academia, but quite remote from the Racket hotspots both thematically and

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote: In my opinion, it would be interesting to develop a pedagogical approach to the language development theme in the form of tutorials, books, or presentations. Maybe even a teaching language with a simplified version of syntax/parse. The goal

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-26 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Matthias Felleisen writes: Here we go: 0. open drracket 1. type ( 2. hit return 3. stare at the two spaces of indentation in sheer amazement 4. relax, type ) Smile. Now you're a Racketeer. Thanks - now I feel enlightened! A web site is an ad. As is a research paper.

Re: [racket-users] the Racket manifesto

2015-03-25 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Mar 24, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: Shortly after I declare that Racket is not a cult, Racket goes and issues a manifesto. Neil V. Neil, I wrote this paper _because_ academia perceives Racket