Re: [racket-users] Windows 10 Fall Update Killed Ability to Open or Save .rkt Files

2017-10-28 Thread Robby Findler
Please see: https://github.com/racket/racket/issues/1856

Robby

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Re: [racket-users] DrR compilation progress bar

2017-10-28 Thread Shu-Hung You
I think printing which file is currently being loaded can also help,
like the logs given by enter! #:verbose. These logs can also be
printed to the interaction window and be erased after the loading
process is finished. This can let the user know that something is
actually running.

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On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ben Greenman
 wrote:
> I like the output `raco make -v ` gives on the command-line.
>
> How about piping that into the interactions window?
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Re: [racket-users] DrR compilation progress bar

2017-10-28 Thread Ben Greenman
I like the output `raco make -v ` gives on the command-line.

How about piping that into the interactions window?

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Re: [racket-users] DrR compilation progress bar

2017-10-28 Thread Robby Findler
I would not want to see a popup window, but there are lots of other,
more subtle ways to indicate progress that would totally work here.
Lets see if we can find a measure of progress that makes sense first.

One idea: the drracket startup progress bar counts the number of files
that are passed to one of the eval/compile handlers as a measure of
progress and it tracks if the total number changes over time. Maybe
that would work?

Related to this is the very recent discussion about errortrace in a
DrRacket issue, as compiling a file (via errortrace) is a completely
different than loading a zo file off of the disk.

Robby



On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users
 wrote:
> Okay, this is just what the world needs…another DrRacket GUI suggestion. If 
> it makes sense, though, I’d love to help implement it.
>
> If there’s anything that the last 30 years of UI (oh… sorry… UX) design has 
> taught us, it’s that people hate to wait, and they REALLY hate to wait when 
> they have no sense of progress.
>
> Currently, hitting the DrRacket “run” button can result in substantial 
> compilation delay, especially when using Typed Racket.
>
> There are various things that can actually make compilation better.
>
> Alongside this, though, one thing that might make people happier would be to 
> provide a short-lived pop-up progress window that tries to indicate the 
> progress toward full compilation.
>
> The obvious problem here is that it’s impossible, in general, to predict how 
> many files will have to be compiled, and in fact “compilation” is a very 
> flexible term in the Racket world. In many cases, opening one file will 
> reveal many more that need to be compiled. In fact, it’s essentially a tree 
> exploration; I’m not sure there’s a good visualization for this, but it would 
> be interesting to try.
>
> Does this sound like an interesting or useful idea?
>
> John
>
>
>
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[racket-users] DrR compilation progress bar

2017-10-28 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users
Okay, this is just what the world needs…another DrRacket GUI suggestion. If it 
makes sense, though, I’d love to help implement it.

If there’s anything that the last 30 years of UI (oh… sorry… UX) design has 
taught us, it’s that people hate to wait, and they REALLY hate to wait when 
they have no sense of progress.

Currently, hitting the DrRacket “run” button can result in substantial 
compilation delay, especially when using Typed Racket.

There are various things that can actually make compilation better.

Alongside this, though, one thing that might make people happier would be to 
provide a short-lived pop-up progress window that tries to indicate the 
progress toward full compilation.

The obvious problem here is that it’s impossible, in general, to predict how 
many files will have to be compiled, and in fact “compilation” is a very 
flexible term in the Racket world. In many cases, opening one file will reveal 
many more that need to be compiled. In fact, it’s essentially a tree 
exploration; I’m not sure there’s a good visualization for this, but it would 
be interesting to try.

Does this sound like an interesting or useful idea?

John


 

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[racket-users] New wiki page ‘friends of Racket’

2017-10-28 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
I created a new wiki page
https://github.com/racket/racket/wiki/Friends-of-Racket
 (yes, I got the idea from rust-lang)

I did it because it is a question that keeps turning up.

Racket-devs: If it is not appropriate for the wiki please delete it.

Kind regards,
Stephen

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