Re: [racket-users] Re: quick racket editor survey

2020-02-29 Thread John Cowan
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 11:33 PM Hendrik Boom 
wrote:

Sounds like there was more than one microEmacs.  Interesting.
>

Sorry, I was actually talking about Freemacs, but I had forgotten its name.



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Re: [racket-users] Re: quick racket editor survey

2020-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 07:24:19PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> MicroEmacs was based on MINT ("MINT Is Not Trac").  TRAC is a language
> based entirely on macroprocessing, with an implementation written in Perl
> at .  But there were a lot of other
> differences unrelated to Elisp vs. MINT.

Sounds like there was more than one microEmacs.  Interesting.

-- hendrik

> 
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 12:56 PM Hendrik Boom 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 12:01:27PM +0100, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > > Hi james
> > >
> > > * I noticed several people at Racketcon using, not Aquamacs, but another
> > > GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular reason to pick one of
> > these
> > > over another?*
> > >
> > > Maybe spacemacs? (I don’t use spacEmacs so I’m only guessing based on the
> > > survey response)
> >
> > No idea.  I haven't even heard of those.
> >
> > I use emacs for everything except Racket.
> >
> > In my life, I've used emacs, zemacs, and microemacs.
> >
> > Of these three, microemaacs was the only independent implementation,
> > based on an language that wasn't a Lisp derivative.  (I think a
> > byte-coded or threaded-coded stack language, but that was a long
> > time ago.
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
> > >
> > > S.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 21:20, James Platt  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 62 response, sadly the histogram doesn't show how many people use
> > two
> > > > or even three editors.
> > > > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-GBD6J7ST7/
> > > >
> > > > I am in transition between DrRacket and Emacs so I checked both of
> > those
> > > > two, myself.  That was after you had posted your Venn diagram.  I was
> > > > mostly using DrRacket before but now I am mostly using Emacs.  I still
> > like
> > > > the features in DrRacket for tracing definitions and use it for that.
> > > > Also, I have two monitors and Gnu Emacs in the terminal does fine for
> > > > splitting the screen on one monitor but not so well across two
> > monitors.
> > > > So, on the occasions where I want another file open on my second
> > monitor, I
> > > > have been using Emacs on the main monitor but DrRacket on the second.
> > I
> > > > probably could use Emacs on multiple monitors if I used one of the Mac
> > > > specific GUI versions.  I noticed several people at Racketcon using,
> > not
> > > > Aquamacs, but another GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular
> > reason
> > > > to pick one of these over another?
> > > >
> > > > I also have set up a Racket development environment in Termux on my
> > > > Android tablet.  Since there is no version of DrRacket for Android, I
> > am
> > > > exclusively using Emacs there.  Having said that, I haven't actually
> > done
> > > > any more yet than test it to see that it works.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
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Re: [racket-users] Re: quick racket editor survey

2020-02-29 Thread John Cowan
MicroEmacs was based on MINT ("MINT Is Not Trac").  TRAC is a language
based entirely on macroprocessing, with an implementation written in Perl
at .  But there were a lot of other
differences unrelated to Elisp vs. MINT.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 12:56 PM Hendrik Boom 
wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 12:01:27PM +0100, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > Hi james
> >
> > * I noticed several people at Racketcon using, not Aquamacs, but another
> > GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular reason to pick one of
> these
> > over another?*
> >
> > Maybe spacemacs? (I don’t use spacEmacs so I’m only guessing based on the
> > survey response)
>
> No idea.  I haven't even heard of those.
>
> I use emacs for everything except Racket.
>
> In my life, I've used emacs, zemacs, and microemacs.
>
> Of these three, microemaacs was the only independent implementation,
> based on an language that wasn't a Lisp derivative.  (I think a
> byte-coded or threaded-coded stack language, but that was a long
> time ago.
>
> -- hendrik
>
> >
> > S.
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 21:20, James Platt  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 62 response, sadly the histogram doesn't show how many people use
> two
> > > or even three editors.
> > > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-GBD6J7ST7/
> > >
> > > I am in transition between DrRacket and Emacs so I checked both of
> those
> > > two, myself.  That was after you had posted your Venn diagram.  I was
> > > mostly using DrRacket before but now I am mostly using Emacs.  I still
> like
> > > the features in DrRacket for tracing definitions and use it for that.
> > > Also, I have two monitors and Gnu Emacs in the terminal does fine for
> > > splitting the screen on one monitor but not so well across two
> monitors.
> > > So, on the occasions where I want another file open on my second
> monitor, I
> > > have been using Emacs on the main monitor but DrRacket on the second.
> I
> > > probably could use Emacs on multiple monitors if I used one of the Mac
> > > specific GUI versions.  I noticed several people at Racketcon using,
> not
> > > Aquamacs, but another GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular
> reason
> > > to pick one of these over another?
> > >
> > > I also have set up a Racket development environment in Termux on my
> > > Android tablet.  Since there is no version of DrRacket for Android, I
> am
> > > exclusively using Emacs there.  Having said that, I haven't actually
> done
> > > any more yet than test it to see that it works.
> > >
> > >
> > > James
> > >
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Re: [racket-users] Re: quick racket editor survey

2020-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 12:01:27PM +0100, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> Hi james
> 
> * I noticed several people at Racketcon using, not Aquamacs, but another
> GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular reason to pick one of these
> over another?*
> 
> Maybe spacemacs? (I don’t use spacEmacs so I’m only guessing based on the
> survey response)

No idea.  I haven't even heard of those.

I use emacs for everything except Racket.

In my life, I've used emacs, zemacs, and microemacs.

Of these three, microemaacs was the only independent implementation,
based on an language that wasn't a Lisp derivative.  (I think a 
byte-coded or threaded-coded stack language, but that was a long 
time ago. 

-- hendrik

> 
> S.
> 
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 21:20, James Platt  wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> >
> > > At 62 response, sadly the histogram doesn't show how many people use two
> > or even three editors.
> > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-GBD6J7ST7/
> >
> > I am in transition between DrRacket and Emacs so I checked both of those
> > two, myself.  That was after you had posted your Venn diagram.  I was
> > mostly using DrRacket before but now I am mostly using Emacs.  I still like
> > the features in DrRacket for tracing definitions and use it for that.
> > Also, I have two monitors and Gnu Emacs in the terminal does fine for
> > splitting the screen on one monitor but not so well across two monitors.
> > So, on the occasions where I want another file open on my second monitor, I
> > have been using Emacs on the main monitor but DrRacket on the second.  I
> > probably could use Emacs on multiple monitors if I used one of the Mac
> > specific GUI versions.  I noticed several people at Racketcon using, not
> > Aquamacs, but another GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular reason
> > to pick one of these over another?
> >
> > I also have set up a Racket development environment in Termux on my
> > Android tablet.  Since there is no version of DrRacket for Android, I am
> > exclusively using Emacs there.  Having said that, I haven't actually done
> > any more yet than test it to see that it works.
> >
> >
> > James
> >
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Re: [racket-users] Re: quick racket editor survey

2020-02-29 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Hi james

* I noticed several people at Racketcon using, not Aquamacs, but another
GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular reason to pick one of these
over another?*

Maybe spacemacs? (I don’t use spacEmacs so I’m only guessing based on the
survey response)

S.

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 21:20, James Platt  wrote:

>
> On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
>
> > At 62 response, sadly the histogram doesn't show how many people use two
> or even three editors.
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-GBD6J7ST7/
>
> I am in transition between DrRacket and Emacs so I checked both of those
> two, myself.  That was after you had posted your Venn diagram.  I was
> mostly using DrRacket before but now I am mostly using Emacs.  I still like
> the features in DrRacket for tracing definitions and use it for that.
> Also, I have two monitors and Gnu Emacs in the terminal does fine for
> splitting the screen on one monitor but not so well across two monitors.
> So, on the occasions where I want another file open on my second monitor, I
> have been using Emacs on the main monitor but DrRacket on the second.  I
> probably could use Emacs on multiple monitors if I used one of the Mac
> specific GUI versions.  I noticed several people at Racketcon using, not
> Aquamacs, but another GUI version of Emacs.  Is there any particular reason
> to pick one of these over another?
>
> I also have set up a Racket development environment in Termux on my
> Android tablet.  Since there is no version of DrRacket for Android, I am
> exclusively using Emacs there.  Having said that, I haven't actually done
> any more yet than test it to see that it works.
>
>
> James
>
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[racket-users] How to Create a Pollen Markup Alternative in 61 Lines

2020-02-29 Thread Sage Gerard
This is a fun workshop-style post as per the subject line. 
https://sagegerard.com/making-powerful-racket-markup.html

It took a while to figure out how to mix #langs without hitting the filesystem, 
let alone distill it to a post. If convenient, please play with this for a bit 
and see if you find any bugs or limitations?

~slg

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